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Good Morning. It's Monday 6th November, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...


Leeds close gap on top two after thrilling win

Leeds closed the gap on leaders Leicester City to eleven points, after a stunning victory at the King Power Stadium on Friday evening.

The Foxes had accumulated 39 out of a possible 42 points up until three nights ago; and were on course for an unprecedented tenth straight victory in a row. However, they came up against a Leeds team, that more than matched them in all departments, in what turned out to be a great advert for Championship football, topped off with a dignified and respectful tribute to our war dead as 'The Last Post' echoed eerily around the King Power Stadium.

Piroe had an early opportunity to put he Whites ahead after clever work from Rutter, but blazed his effort wide from the edge of the area. At the other end Mavididi and Fatawu were creating all kind of problems for the visitors from wide positions, causing Leeds to double team them as the match progressed.

Fatawu went close, late on in the first half after skipping past Byram (twice), before cutting inside, and unleashing a thunderbolt that crashed against the woodwork. The crossbar was still vibrating when fifteen seconds later Crysencio Summerville went down in the opposition penalty box, only for the referee to wave play on.

Piroe forced a diving save from Hermansen early on in the second half, followed minutes later by some last ditch tackling to deny Rutter, as he tried to work his way through a sea of blue. The only goal of the game came in the 58th minute. Dan James' out-swinging corner looked to be glancing in, off the head of Byram, only to be denied by a stunning reflex save from Hermansen. The young Dane was powerless to prevent the rebound, bundled home by Rutter from close distance.

There was late drama when Dewsbury-Hall rose far too easily above Ayling to nod home from close distance, only for Meslier to claw the ball off the goal-line and away to safety. It would have been cruel on the Whites, especially as it would have been their first shot on target all night.





Farke praises players resolve in stunning victory

Leeds Manager Daniel Farke was quick to praise his players' resolve after defeating top of the table Leicester City in their own backyard on Friday evening.

Although the hosts dominated possession 66% - 34%, Leeds carved out by far the most opportunities with 6 shots on target, as apposed to Dewsbury-Hall's late effort, which forced a World class save from Meslier.

Importantly, as Farke points out, Leeds had to organised, and not allow their opponents any space, where they could create chances:-

To be brave, to play football with courage and to go for it with confidence was the key today.When you want to get something in such a game you have to be brave and you have to make sure that you have periods in the game where you bring the game to their half, you press them really high with bravery and when you're good in possession you hurt them with your possession.

You can't have these periods over 90 minutes, there are also periods where you have to be structured and allow them possession in areas where they can't hurt you and don't offer them any spaces where they can create chances.

So to bring such a complex performance on the pitch, on the one hand to be brave and our high pressing, to be good with the ball and dominate, but when they are in possession - because they are so good with the ball - to stay disciplined, to stay well structured and have the possession more or less in their own half where they can't hurt you, I think that was definitely the key today.




Odds shorten on Leeds return to top flight

Elsewhere in the Championship, Southampton, West Brom and Preston kept the pressure up on the Whites, whilst second place Ipswich did well to recover from a two-nil deficit to draw against Wayne Rooney's Birmingham City. It means Leeds are five points away from second place, though the Tractor Boys have a significantly better goal difference (14 v 10).

Betting giants Bet365 have slashed Leeds' odds of automatic promotion after the results at the weekend. Leicester City are obviously still favourites 1/6, though Ipswich Town's odds have widened slightly to 4/5, with Leeds gaining momentum in third 6/5. There's a big gap, with Southampton in fourth on 5/1, followed by West Brom 20/1, Boro 20/1 and Cardiff 33/1.





Will Leeds regret Greenwood release clause

With three goals in his last five games, Sam Greenwood is fast becoming a fans favourite at the Riverside Stadium. The 21yo, a 2020 purchase from Arsenal for a fee understood to be as much as £3m after add-ons, was allowed to join Middlesbrough on a season long loan with a clause in the contract allowing them to make the deal permanent 'on the cheap.

According to media sources, Boro have the option to buy the former England U21 Striker for £1.5m on a try before you buy basis. You'd think, after being hurt so badly during the Summer, that the club would be a little more careful with their paperwork.


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Ipswich are seven points clear with a game in hand not five as stated
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Friday night win sets up a nice weekend.

Let's hope we can keep up the pressure this weekend.

I'm not bothered about Greenwood. He wasn't going to get into our team and we will get our money back.

If there were add ons it is hard to see how we would be liable for them as he hardly played

Buying kids for small fees in the hope he develops is part of the game. Some do most don't.
We paid buttons for Jimmy and he will make us a tidy profit you would expect.

All the best to him.
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Morning EB et all,

What a fabulous game, both teams played the game as it should be played, excitement from beginning to end and the Mighty Leeds come out on top. Every single one of our players, including subs, manager and coaching staff deserve praise for getting through Friday night and coming out with a win, Leicester are deservedly on top of the league (currently) but we showed them it's not going to be as easy a ride as it had been before and hopefully other teams realise Leicester can be beaten.

Greenwood is just one of those players always on the fringes of the first team without ever getting a proper run in the team and moving away is probably the best thing for him, a bit like Ampadu, was near going to get in Chelsea's first team as he didn't cost them £100m, but now he's found a home and looks like a £50m+ player and I bet Chelsea are pissed they let him go so cheap :lol:
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Morning all.
A superb well deserved victory on friday night despite what their manager thinks.
We actually bossed them all over the pitch, they only had more possession (which counts for nothing as we know only too well) because we kept them tight at the back, their goalie had twice as many touches as all 3 forwards, tells the real tale of the tape.
The save from Mes cannot be underestimated, it would have been floodlight robbery but thanks the his total concentration we got the deserved 3 points.
Every player was exceptional, little things might have gone un-noticed to most, like the block from Pascal on vardy, he may not have got there, but Pascal was aware and kept him well away, we have now set the benchmark, up to us to keep it going.

Sam was never going to get into our first team again, if we make a little profit, then great stuff.
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Irish Ian wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:24 am Friday night win sets up a nice weekend.

Let's hope we can keep up the pressure this weekend.

I'm not bothered about Greenwood. He wasn't going to get into our team and we will get our money back.

If there were add ons it is hard to see how we would be liable for them as he hardly played

Buying kids for small fees in the hope he develops is part of the game. Some do most don't.
We paid buttons for Jimmy and he will make us a tidy profit you would expect.

All the best to him.
I assume the add ons have already been paid to Arsenal, probably relating to him breaking into our senior squad, and he's played 26 times for us.
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We gained 3pts on Leicester (effectively 6, as had they won they would have been 17pts ahead) and 2pts on Ipswich last weekend, which is good. If we can keep up the pressure like that for the next couple of months we’ll be back in touch with the top two and, having beaten them both away from home, we still have them to play at Elland Road. As far as we are concerned, It’s all heading in the right direction currently, but there’s a long way to go yet and we are famous for our ups and downs - it says so in the song, so I’m not getting carried away just yet!

A change of scenery has done Greenwood a lot of good it would seem, but, as Ian has already said, he never looked quite good enough to get a sustained run in our team, so I see no problem with the transfer.
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Sam Greenwood is a championship level player but once we signed Ampadu, Kamara and Gruev it was obvious he was well down the pecking order in DF's plans so the move was right for him and us.
It's good to see him doing well and if he score a couple against Leicester this weekend, even better.
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Fck a duck, i wish i'd left my bet runnin.

Stop remindin me of Clown and Muppets previous dealings, i'm only just starting to get off to sleep at night and have given the 49er's and DF a clean slate :rant:
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Chilli D wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:15 am Sam Greenwood is a championship level player but once we signed Ampadu, Kamara and Gruev it was obvious he was well down the pecking order in DF's plans so the move was right for him and us.
It's good to see him doing well and if he score a couple against Leicester this weekend, even better.
TBH I think his competition in the current Leeds line up would be Piroe...
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Havnt we had this Greenwood chat before? It’s a shame it didn’t work out at elland road but he isnt the only young player to flourish elsewhere - there. Is a special kind of pressure at Leeds and some players can’t handle it - we should not have agreed a price pre loan though that does feel a bit amateurish to me. At least he wont be playing against us this season.
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Good luck to Greenwood. I'm glad he's doing well.

The situation with Greenwood could be replicated with Gelhardt. He's not making the first team and others in the way.

Does DF see something in him that means he hasn't left (yet).
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The Subhuman wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:11 am TBH I think his competition in the current Leeds line up would be Piroe...
Yes possibly. He's now only 2 behind Piroe for goals and has played less games.
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Thrilling win describes the game perfectly. Now we just some sort of run of form that keeps the momentum. No more substandard performances like Stoke or Southampton. Time to kick on and apply the pressure to the Tractor Boys. These guy are are running on fumes. Another get of jail draw at the Blues from 2-0 down. The wheels will come off the Tractor at some point..
As for Greenwood at the Boro, I wish him good luck, Leeds had the options, evaluated the player and let him go. Right or wrong Greenwood will get his chance at another club.
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You had the whispering twins that messed up every free kick they took, whereas Sam was often deadly from free kicks, either making a good delivery or scoring goals, and he exhibited this aplenty in the U23's.

Every team should have a penalty specialist like Kane for Spurs, someone who is dependable, or a free kick specialist like Ian Harte for Leeds... Alexander- Arnold and Ward-Prowse are two other players that can be counted apon to take advantages of set piece situations, but Leeds have no one comparable... no go to player who is nailed on to take free kicks, and who can deliver

Perhaps Sam would have been the man
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Sean_Nile wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:23 pm You had the whispering twins that messed up every free kick they took, whereas Sam was often deadly from free kicks, either making a good delivery or scoring goals, and he exhibited this aplenty in the U23's.

Every team should have a penalty specialist like Kane for Spurs, someone who is dependable, or a free kick specialist like Ian Harte for Leeds... Alexander- Arnold and Ward-Prowse are two other players that can be counted apon to take advantages of set piece situations, but Leeds have no one comparable... no go to player who is nailed on to take free kicks, and who can deliver

Perhaps Sam would have been the man
Sam was that player, I've seen enough of him in the U21s to see his potential, maybe he needed a run under DF, it didn't work out under previous managers, one concerning thing about SG though is his pace, or lack of it, often caught floundering in midfield under Marsch and Gracia, in the U21s he didn't need to track back as he was often up front.
As you rightly say, every side ought to have a dead ball specialist, at the moment, we have Gnonto, James, Bamford and Sommerville all dashing to pick the ball up like an over excited 14 year old wanting to try his luck.
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Cracking performance. I think we have more about us personally. If lc wingers don't work they run out of ideas. Their manager has a philosophy that's obviously worked well so far but it would be picked apart in the pl with ease. Altho they don't have the flamboyance of a Bielsa or Farke you can see the methodical persistent consistency that as grinded teams down to this point.

Good luck to Sam. He's a North East kid a believe and every kid should want to play football every week. Its a short career, no point sitting on the bench when you have the opportunity to play every week.
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