Leeds Utd v Watford Match Thread

[1964white]

And Piroe off too!

My god, the big lump was woeful, you'd think he would be able to compete against a team of big lumps.

Joel can't handle physical pressure.

Joseph has to start at Ashton Gate.

[1964white]

Pollock pulls Solomon’s shirt over his head and wins a free kick. You couldn’t make it up

How many fouls did the ref miss tonight?

[1964white]

Joseph stretching things much more than Piroe did

He will do, Mateo can run & harass defenders.

[1964white]

At last, we are pressing better the last ten minutes

Makes our game more controlled, halted the hornets running at our defenders.

[Cjay]

My god, the big lump was woeful, you'd think he would be able to compete against a team of big lumps.

Joel can't handle physical pressure.

Joseph has to start at Ashton Gate.

And miss headers from 6 yards out?

Piroe was bad but he gets treated far harsher than some by some of our fans . . . . . . . . . . .

Goal or assist every 133 minutes playing out if position for 90% of his time here.

But yeah he's woeful needs dropping after 1 game.

Joseph not able to hit a cows arse with a banjo this season but runs a lot yeah good job

[1964white]

And miss headers from 6 yards out?

Piroe was bad but he gets treated far harsher than some by some of our fans . . . . . . . . . . .

Goal or assist every 133 minutes playing out if position for 90% of his time here.

But yeah he's woeful needs dropping after 1 game.

He's good when he has space, as was the case for his goals coming off the bench against tired legs,

[1964white]

Watford are an ugly physical side with some skills. Can see them making the playoffs.

Lost 4 of their last 6 games.

[Siqu]

I'm tiring of our love for piroe....

I keep defending him to others but surely at the reported 70k a week bamford should be considered.
Yes he is always injured, but from what i saw a 50% bamford would be better than piroe.
I do believe piroe has not had the best position found yet and can come good. But cmon... Aaron'sen has not played well since his red Bull days in England, James should be before him. I'd be drinking 20 red bls and watching the 49ers daily if it meant James went ahead of him.
Bamford before piroe. And if not then Joseph or even gelhardt. In fact id pick myself at times over piroe.
If anyone continues to say how firpoe is premier class then I'd imagine they'd either been at a lockin or sectioned.
Soloman was poor but we all know he needs game time to sharpen up. His best may yet come..
Positively Tanaka looks a true energizer bunny and rothwell is delivering set pieces and corners we needed years back.
So happy to see struik back this season!

[Irish Ian]

No i’m a realist. The amnesia of our fans never ceases to amaze me.

If we’re ever going to get out of this damned league we need to be comfortably shutting the door after taking an early lead in these type of matches we can bank.

This should have been a chance to take respite and allow fringe substitutes to come on at 2-0 to see the game out.

Instead it was frantic and frenetic until the 100th minute. This takes it’s toll long term. In April as we saw last season when our key players looked absolutely dead on their feet in the final 10 games.

It staggers me how fans set the bar so low.

[Irish Ian]

No i’m a realist. The amnesia of our fans never ceases to amaze me.

If we’re ever going to get out of this damned league we need to be comfortably shutting the door after taking an early lead in these type of matches we can bank.

This should have been a chance to take respite and allow fringe substitutes to come on at 2-0 to see the game out.

Instead it was frantic and frenetic until the 100th minute. This takes it’s toll long term. In April as we saw last season when our key players looked absolutely dead on their feet in the final 10 games.

It staggers me how fans set the bar so low.

Come April it will be 3 well earned and deserved points already on the board.

This expectation that we will put games to bed week in week out is fanciful. It's as if the opposition aren't allowed to actually try and beat us.

It's one of the toughest leagues for a reason, teams fighting to get out of it while others are fighting to stay away from the plug hole into league One.

Just try and enjoy it for what it is.

[Irish Ian]

I'm tiring of our love for piroe....

I keep defending him to others but surely at the reported 70k a week bamford should be considered.
Yes he is always injured, but from what i saw a 50% bamford would be better than piroe.
I do believe piroe has not had the best position found yet and can come good. But cmon... Aaron'sen has not played well since his red Bull days in England, James should be before him. I'd be drinking 20 red bls and watching the 49ers daily if it meant James went ahead of him.
Bamford before piroe. And if not then Joseph or even gelhardt. In fact id pick myself at times over piroe.
If anyone continues to say how firpoe is premier class then I'd imagine they'd either been at a lockin or sectioned.
Soloman was poor but we all know he needs game time to sharpen up. His best may yet come..
Positively Tanaka looks a true energizer bunny and rothwell is delivering set pieces and corners we needed years back.
So happy to see struik back this season!

Re Piroe.

Did you miss Friday?
Or away to Sunderland?

[Cjay]

He's good when he has space, as was the case for his goals coming off the bench against tired legs,

That would seem unlikely given the Swansea side he thrived in had an average of 63% possession in his two seasons which is more than we have had in both his here.

Would suggest he's pretty useful vs teams sitting back and defending no?

Perhaps he just had a poor game?

It happens and he wasn't alone today

[Cjay]

I'm tiring of our love for piroe....

I keep defending him to others but surely at the reported 70k a week bamford should be considered.
Yes he is always injured, but from what i saw a 50% bamford would be better than piroe.
I do believe piroe has not had the best position found yet and can come good. But cmon... Aaron'sen has not played well since his red Bull days in England, James should be before him. I'd be drinking 20 red bls and watching the 49ers daily if it meant James went ahead of him.
Bamford before piroe. And if not then Joseph or even gelhardt. In fact id pick myself at times over piroe.
If anyone continues to say how firpoe is premier class then I'd imagine they'd either been at a lockin or sectioned.
Soloman was poor but we all know he needs game time to sharpen up. His best may yet come..
Positively Tanaka looks a true energizer bunny and rothwell is delivering set pieces and corners we needed years back.
So happy to see struik back this season!

He's the most criticised player on this forum

[whiteswan]

We were all over them after the goals, after Ramazani went off it all changed.

Sat back, let them into it, didn't stretch them and let them dominate midifeld.

Yes, I said earlier that the injury, plus the time out it caused played into their hands. Allowed them to re-group

[whiteswan]

He's doing alright, but until he gets us promoted he's achieved nothing.

We are now at the 2ppg mark, the usual benchmark for automatic.

So he's doing his job.

Point was this anti Farke how dare anyone ever criticise him what awful fans they are that starts on here is daft.

Every manager gets criticised, the Maresca tactics thread on Leicester forum was almost exclusively people wanting him sacked for the entire season.

Arteta got hammered for being so defensive the other night.

Even Pep being hammered for his tactics on City forum after Wolves

It happens to every manager from every fanbase.

Your point?

[whiteswan]

I called the added-time correctly

Smart arse

[whiteswan]

No i’m a realist. The amnesia of our fans never ceases to amaze me.

If we’re ever going to get out of this damned league we need to be comfortably shutting the door after taking an early lead in these type of matches we can bank.

This should have been a chance to take respite and allow fringe substitutes to come on at 2-0 to see the game out.

Instead it was frantic and frenetic until the 100th minute. This takes it’s toll long term. In April as we saw last season when our key players looked absolutely dead on their feet in the final 10 games.

It staggers me how fans set the bar so low.

Make your point about the game.....but please stop slagging off the fans.

[Cjay]

Your point?

The last line

[YorkshireSquare]

Joseph has to start at Ashton Gate.

Without a CDM we need to stretch things at the top of the pitch. Joseph and James to start for me.

[CypriotWhite]

He's the most criticised player on this forum

Correct, I think he meant your love.
You strike me as a very biased stubborn person that is just never wrong, it seems to be everybody elses fault bar Piroe.
Including the manager.
Do you find it hard to hold your hand up.
Just admit it, Piroe struggles at times, and sometimes he finishes a chance well.
He still has a long way to go to prove his worth.