Crystal Palace vs Leeds United Match Thread

[1964white]

Click on Peter Lorimer & watch his top 20 goals on the Match threads link now with added stats at the top.

Unbelivevable goals from Hot Shot Lorimer.....I remember them well.

No.3 was at Selhurst Park.

[Sean_Nile]

All that matters is we gain points and not what style or system we play. Plus that's quite the insult for a manager who's being doing a great job for us from day one.

Is it possible you're attempting to set the tone that even if we stay up it wasn't done well or in the right way ? Because if so that's completely disrespectful not only to Farke but also to the whole squad who have been fighting hard all season to preserve our PL status.

That is King Plod's style death by a thousand cuts.

[1964white]

One of Lorimer's beauties in the snow.

Players these days don't realise how lucky they are playing on well cared for green football pitches.

[Madron]

We have lost LESS away games than West Ham and Spurs have lost HOME games.

[Jammy 07]

You are flogging a dead horse, Jammy.

The alternative is to sit back and allow posters to construct a certain narrative which is later justified as debate and opinion.

Farke as a coward now being the latest.

[CHAPELALLMAN]

I'm sure I read that Okafor is still two weeks away from playing.

He's got a hip injury now. Wouldn't be surprised if he barely features between now and the end of the season. Plus he wont have match sharpness whenever he does actually come back.

Has the cooling off period expired to return faulty goods ?

[CHAPELALLMAN]

The alternative is to sit back and allow posters to construct a certain narrative which is later justified as debate and opinion.

Farke as a coward now being the latest.

Of course it's debate and opinion - do you think it's a new ideology being formed or something ?

Some men just can't psychologically cope with other men having differing opinions to them. Like it's an existential threat to them or something.

" Some men struggle with differing opinions because they equate their ideas with their identity, meaning a disagreement feels like a personal attack. This difficulty often stems from traditional socialisation that prioritises dominance and emotional suppression over open communication.

Psychological and Social Drivers

Identity Fusion: Many people identify so strongly with their opinions that rejecting the idea feels like a rejection of their entire person.

Traditional Masculinity Norms: Societal expectations often pressure men to be "stoic" and "invulnerable". In this framework, admitting someone else might be right can be perceived as a sign of weakness or "losing".

Fragile Self-Esteem: Insecurity is a major driver of defensiveness. Men with lower self-esteem may use criticism or the need to be "right" to assert control and deflect from their own perceived flaws.

Cognitive Dissonance: Research suggests that some individuals experience a heightened physical and mental discomfort when faced with conflicting information, making them more likely to shut down or lash out.

Lack of Emotional Literacy: Many men have not been taught the language to identify and express nuanced feelings. Instead of saying they feel "threatened" or "unsure," they may default to anger, which is often the only socially "acceptable" emotion for men to show. "

[Jammy 07]

Of course it's debate and opinion - do you think it's a new ideology being formed or something ?

Some men just can't psychologically cope with other men having differing opinions to them. Like it's an existential threat to them or something.

" Some men struggle with differing opinions because they equate their ideas with their identity, meaning a disagreement feels like a personal attack. This difficulty often stems from traditional socialisation that prioritises dominance and emotional suppression over open communication.

Psychological and Social Drivers

Identity Fusion: Many people identify so strongly with their opinions that rejecting the idea feels like a rejection of their entire person.

Traditional Masculinity Norms: Societal expectations often pressure men to be "stoic" and "invulnerable". In this framework, admitting someone else might be right can be perceived as a sign of weakness or "losing".

Fragile Self-Esteem: Insecurity is a major driver of defensiveness. Men with lower self-esteem may use criticism or the need to be "right" to assert control and deflect from their own perceived flaws.

Cognitive Dissonance: Research suggests that some individuals experience a heightened physical and mental discomfort when faced with conflicting information, making them more likely to shut down or lash out.

Lack of Emotional Literacy: Many men have not been taught the language to identify and express nuanced feelings. Instead of saying they feel "threatened" or "unsure," they may default to anger, which is often the only socially "acceptable" emotion for men to show. "

All complete psycho babble waffle

[White Riot]

Also, To put that in to context.
If you were told at the start of December we would only lose one (unluckily) away game in the next 3 months , against 7 of the top 12 teams, including Liverpool, Chelsea and Villa. you wouldn't have believe it.
Our away form isn't as black as its being painted.

I don't think it's being painted black, the reality is that we are dreadful away from home.

We have 9 points from 14 away matches, only Wolves have less than that points tally. Unless that improves we are in real danger of being relegated.

Our home results are not sufficient to keep us up, if we can't win away from home.

[CHAPELALLMAN]

All complete psycho babble waffle

Which is why people like you react the way you do. No ability to self-reflect..

It's the thin end of the wedge. At the thicker end, it explains a lot of what we see on the news every day....

[YorkshireSquare]

Also, To put that in to context.
If you were told at the start of December we would only lose one (unluckily) away game in the next 3 months , against 7 of the top 12 teams, including Liverpool, Chelsea and Villa. you wouldn't have believe it.
Our away form isn't as black as its being painted.

The concern for me is despite having had a good run, we've not won that many games.

Need to convert the good positions in games into three points. Had we been able to hand in there in a few more games we'd be safe by now. Applies as much to home as it does away. The question is that squad depth, quality of a lack of tactical acumen?

[PhoenixUnited]

He's got a hip injury now. Wouldn't be surprised if he barely features between now and the end of the season. Plus he wont have match sharpness whenever he does actually come back.

Has the cooling off period expired to return faulty goods ?

Okafor does have his supporters on this forum - fair enough if that is their opinion.

Personally, I am not the least bit exercised that he is on the "unavailable" list as I think when he is in the team he is mostly a passenger that runs out of steam after 30 minutes in the first half and is completely knackered on the hour mark into the game anyways. He also compromises the effectiveness of Gudmundsson up that left wing and either can't or won't track back as much as he should.

Even before he went off injured he looked much, much less than match fit / sharp at a point where we are well into the season begging the question - is that about the best he can get to? Overall, it really isn't good enough. If we stay up we need to be looking for better next season IMHO.

[Jammy 07]

Which is why people like you react the way you do. No ability to self-reflect..

It's the thin end of the wedge. At the thicker end, it explains a lot of what we see on the news every day....

You're confusing ability with desire on this occasion.

It's a football forum last time I checked

[Madron]

The concern for me is despite having had a good run, we've not won that many games.

Need to convert the good positions in games into three points. Had we been able to hand in there in a few more games we'd be safe by now. Applies as much to home as it does away. The question is that squad depth, quality of a lack of tactical acumen?

Another way to look at is is the away games v Brentford, Sunderland, Liverpool, Chelsea, Villa and Everton, are games where we have gained a point from a probable defeat ,given that those teams were expected to beat us. Those 6 points have kept us out of the bottom 3.
Our aim was to finish 17th or above ,and currently we are achieving that. Anything more would be icing on the cake

[billysboots]

Of course it's debate and opinion - do you think it's a new ideology being formed or something ?

Some men just can't psychologically cope with other men having differing opinions to them. Like it's an existential threat to them or something.

" Some men struggle with differing opinions because they equate their ideas with their identity, meaning a disagreement feels like a personal attack. This difficulty often stems from traditional socialisation that prioritises dominance and emotional suppression over open communication.

Psychological and Social Drivers

Identity Fusion: Many people identify so strongly with their opinions that rejecting the idea feels like a rejection of their entire person.

Traditional Masculinity Norms: Societal expectations often pressure men to be "stoic" and "invulnerable". In this framework, admitting someone else might be right can be perceived as a sign of weakness or "losing".

Fragile Self-Esteem: Insecurity is a major driver of defensiveness. Men with lower self-esteem may use criticism or the need to be "right" to assert control and deflect from their own perceived flaws.

Cognitive Dissonance: Research suggests that some individuals experience a heightened physical and mental discomfort when faced with conflicting information, making them more likely to shut down or lash out.

Lack of Emotional Literacy: Many men have not been taught the language to identify and express nuanced feelings. Instead of saying they feel "threatened" or "unsure," they may default to anger, which is often the only socially "acceptable" emotion for men to show. "

I used to work with a fella who couldn’t cope if you expressed a different opinion, he would actually get aggressive.

[Johnthewhite]

Of course it's debate and opinion - do you think it's a new ideology being formed or something ?

Some men just can't psychologically cope with other men having differing opinions to them. Like it's an existential threat to them or something.

" Some men struggle with differing opinions because they equate their ideas with their identity, meaning a disagreement feels like a personal attack. This difficulty often stems from traditional socialisation that prioritises dominance and emotional suppression over open communication.

Psychological and Social Drivers

Identity Fusion: Many people identify so strongly with their opinions that rejecting the idea feels like a rejection of their entire person.

Traditional Masculinity Norms: Societal expectations often pressure men to be "stoic" and "invulnerable". In this framework, admitting someone else might be right can be perceived as a sign of weakness or "losing".

Fragile Self-Esteem: Insecurity is a major driver of defensiveness. Men with lower self-esteem may use criticism or the need to be "right" to assert control and deflect from their own perceived flaws.

Cognitive Dissonance: Research suggests that some individuals experience a heightened physical and mental discomfort when faced with conflicting information, making them more likely to shut down or lash out.

Lack of Emotional Literacy: Many men have not been taught the language to identify and express nuanced feelings. Instead of saying they feel "threatened" or "unsure," they may default to anger, which is often the only socially "acceptable" emotion for men to show. "

Are you sending an invoice in for your work

[Madron]

I don't think it's being painted black, the reality is that we are dreadful away from home.

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Did you not read that before posting ?

[The Subhuman]

Click on Peter Lorimer & watch his top 20 goals on the Match threads link now with added stats at the top.

Unbelivevable goals from Hot Shot Lorimer.....I remember them well.

No.3 was at Selhurst Park.

Speaking of great goals, was reminded today that Stach also scored a cracker for us v Milan .. that's scored 5 - all goal of the season contenders

[White Riot]

Did you not read that before posting ?

It's cognitive thinking pal I'm able to understand what I'm posting, you should try it

[Madron]

It's cognitive thinking pal I'm able to understand what I'm posting, you should try it

More like contradictory thinking .Which half do you understand ?