Muppet the Cat wrote: ↑Sun Aug 02, 2026 7:02 pm
I would point out that the title of the thread is ‘The Wine Thread’……….which doesn’t suggest that unappreciative views of wine can not be expressed
I just had a bottle of Chateau Gofuckyourself 1974.
Superb
I declare my love for Saint Daniel and I can shoehorn him in to any conversation.
Jaydog wrote: ↑Sun Aug 02, 2026 7:03 pm
I just had a bottle of Chateau Gofuckyourself 1974.
Superb
Yes, the '74 was a cheeky little wine. Not precocious you understand, but with just enough swagger to ensure being enjoyable.
Served at room temperate with a Guinness, whisky amd tequila chaser and you wont forget it. Well, you will be because you'll be legless, but good all the same.
Seriously though, Dog Point does indeed produce some great whites.
Muppet the Cat wrote: ↑Sun Aug 02, 2026 6:50 pm
Pretty much my view of wine, Hector.
I will drink fizz and some cold white wine, but as a rule not a fan. I’ll stick to beer.
I didn’t inherit my Dad’s love of wine that’s for sure. He used to go on summer trips-tours around the Chateau’s of France, as well as Spain and Portugal.
After he passed away in April, I’ve been trying to sort out things in his house and keep coming across bottles of wine, some of which I’ve brought home to Cardiff.
No idea if these are any good, but Mrs Muppet is working her way through them, as she is a wine drinker.
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Sorry for your loss, Cat. Sounds like some great winery trips though. Would love to do that one day.
Jammy 07 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 02, 2026 5:20 pm
Just as a conversation point what's the oldest wine anyone has been lucky enough to try and how was it.
For me it was a 1957 Haut Brion which I bought at auction about 20 years ago. Only cost £100 as the level was a bit down but still roughly high shoulder. Took a gamble really as was sort of expecting it to be undrinkable.
Opened it in a French restaurant located in the Dust Thani Hotel Bangkok and it was amazingly good with so much cedar both in the mouth and on the nose. It doesn't score well at all in reviews but the one I had was a joy.
Actually just remembered I've had bottle of port from 1950 as well which was ok but port is not really my thing to be honest.
Oldest I've gotten to try. Birth year wine. Was fantastic. Still singing. Couldn't believe how much fruit profile was still there. Was well cellared, I'd imagine. I'd love to try older stuff, but hard/expensive to come by. My dad was born in 1956 so I've often thought about seeking out a Birth year Bordeux for him (his favorite style)
Oldest I've gotten to try. Birth year wine. Was fantastic. Still singing. Couldn't believe how much fruit profile was still there. Was well cellared, I'd imagine. I'd love to try older stuff, but hard/expensive to come by. My dad was born in 1956 so I've often thought about seeking out a Birth year Bordeux for him (his favorite style)
Opened a bottle of 1959 Beaulieu Georges de Latour Cab for my 50th in 2009. It was a gift from the owner of a French restaurant in San Francisco where I worked for a time. 'Twas lovely.
Just ordered the book “Stalins wine cellar”.
Supposed to be a great read.
He was an avid collector with a penchant for dessert wines.
40,000 bottles in a cellar in Georgia. Some ancient vintages of Chateau d’Yquem and many more.
The stock list is mind blowing.
About the Aussie chap that originally tried to track it down with a view to buying it.
Oldest I've gotten to try. Birth year wine. Was fantastic. Still singing. Couldn't believe how much fruit profile was still there. Was well cellared, I'd imagine. I'd love to try older stuff, but hard/expensive to come by. My dad was born in 1956 so I've often thought about seeking out a Birth year Bordeux for him (his favorite style)
The 1956 Bordeaux vintage is known as "the Black Year" due to a catastrophic February frost—the coldest winter in France since 1709—that dropped temperatures to -20°C, destroyed up to 80% of Merlot vines, created tiny yields, and left surviving wines thin, acidic, and extremely rare today.
My birth year (1965) was a shocker too. Incredibly wet.
However that Tondonia 1965 I posted was in perfect condition albeit relatively simple.
I declare my love for Saint Daniel and I can shoehorn him in to any conversation.
Victor_Notts-17 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2026 2:34 pm
Where are you lot getting your money from for these wines? I'm scraping every barrel I come across to buy anything
We have a Total Wine store about a 75-minute drive from me. I make the trip every five or six weeks. They have an excellent selection of wines in the $10 - $15 (US) range. Not superb, nor are they wines that require a lot of cellaring, but they are generally very good and are substantially better than the usual grocery store swill. You can find wines for less, too.
Don't know where you are in Ontario, but there is one located in Detroit.
John in Louisiana wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2026 3:45 pm
We have a Total Wine store about a 75-minute drive from me. I make the trip every five or six weeks. They have an excellent selection of wines in the $10 - $15 (US) range. Not superb, nor are they wines that require a lot of cellaring, but they are generally very good and are substantially better than the usual grocery store swill. You can find wines for less, too.
Don't know where you are in Ontario, but there is one located in Detroit.
I'm 40 minutes south of the city (Ottawa). LCBO is where we go: or the Beer Store. That's all we have so we have to make do...
Jaydog wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2026 3:36 pm
The 1956 Bordeaux vintage is known as "the Black Year" due to a catastrophic February frost—the coldest winter in France since 1709—that dropped temperatures to -20°C, destroyed up to 80% of Merlot vines, created tiny yields, and left surviving wines thin, acidic, and extremely rare today.
My birth year (1965) was a shocker too. Incredibly wet.
However that Tondonia 1965 I posted was in perfect condition albeit relatively simple.
Appreciate the info, Jay! I guess that will save me some time and money trying to hunt one down for the old man
Victor_Notts-17 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2026 2:34 pm
Where are you lot getting your money from for these wines? I'm scraping every barrel I come across to buy anything
It is definitely a challenge finding good wines for cheap, but they are out there! John made some good points. But there is no doubt that you've gotta "pay to play" for certain regions and because of that, there are some I am unable to try. But there are some amazing values out there too. Will try to post some of the better QPRs (Quality price ratio) I find in here. I will admit that for some of the ones I consider great values, will still be in the $25-35 range. Though it is possible to find gems under $20. One way I justify the bottles more in the $30-$50 range is to drink less (which is another goal of mine) but then "treat" myself to nicer bottles.
Evan R wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2026 6:03 pm
It is definitely a challenge finding good wines for cheap, but they are out there! John made some good points. But there is no doubt that you've gotta "pay to play" for certain regions and because of that, there are some I am unable to try. But there are some amazing values out there too. Will try to post some of the better QPRs (Quality price ratio) I find in here. I will admit that for some of the ones I consider great values, will still be in the $25-35 range. Though it is possible to find gems under $20. One way I justify the bottles more in the $30-$50 range is to drink less (which is another goal of mine) but then "treat" myself to nicer bottles.
Drinker less cos it's more expensive is not something I would ever consider!!! LOL
Seriously though: I have earnt nothing since my surgery in Feb as I have been off work so cash is tight. I have a $20 cap on wine right now...
Victor_Notts-17 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2026 6:12 pm
Drinker less cos it's more expensive is not something I would ever consider!!! LOL
Seriously though: I have earnt nothing since my surgery in Feb as I have been off work so cash is tight. I have a $20 cap on wine right now...
Until recently, me neither haha! $20 gets you into some nice offerings though, I'd say. I know I've seen you post some Spanish reds, and they are some of the best values in that range, to be sure.
Evan R wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2026 6:25 pm
Until recently, me neither haha! $20 gets you into some nice offerings though, I'd say. I know I've seen you post some Spanish reds, and they are some of the best values in that range, to be sure.
There are decent Italian reds to be had here for $12-$13 if you look around. Caliterra is a nice cheap staple Cab Sauv we buy regularly. Very quaffable and it's a 13% which is kinda my minimum/standard. We like the Caliterra Sauv Blanc too (I can't drink it since my surgery as it gives me acid)...
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Victor_Notts-17 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2026 6:45 pm
There are decent Italian reds to be had here for $12-$13 if you look around. Caliterra is a nice cheap staple Cab Sauv we buy regularly. Very quaffable and it's a 13% which is kinda my minimum/standard. We like the white too (not sure which grape as I can't drink it since my surgery as it gives me acid)...
Will look for it! Always good to find a staple bottle in that range.
Oldest I've gotten to try. Birth year wine. Was fantastic. Still singing. Couldn't believe how much fruit profile was still there. Was well cellared, I'd imagine. I'd love to try older stuff, but hard/expensive to come by. My dad was born in 1956 so I've often thought about seeking out a Birth year Bordeux for him (his favorite style)
I'd love to try some decent reds from the USA but not sure what to buy and also what's available in the UK.
