Leeds Utd v Sheffield Wednesday Match Thread - Bamford & Douglas Start

[1964white]

Harrison has one of the best first touches I’ve ever seen at any level but six yards out, middle of the goal, gets great contact on it just hits it wide and I still don't get how

[1964white]

Since Dallas vacated the LWB position clean sheets have gone out with the washing, defensively we were much more tighter at the back with Dallas playing in either wing-back position.

There was no reason why Dallas should not have started there yesterday or moved into that role with our first substitution. Bielsa got it all wrong & once again done by Garry Monk FFS.

Dallas was f**ked at the end of the game so it looks like we are stuck with Douglas or Alioski in that role. Personally I prefer Leif Davis but that's not gonna happen. God help us in that position over the next few months.

[BGwhite]

We are much more solid with Dallas in either wing back position. When he replaced Ayling on the right earlier in the season he grew into the role and was playing as good as ever since being at the club but as soon as Ayling was fit Dallas was moved and he's not been the same. MIDFIELD IS NOT HIS POSITION BIELSA !

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[DavidH]

Well, I wanted to sleep on that performance before commenting. Although we had been misfiring a little over the past few games, i wasn't that worried as we were still playing good football, which in the end will take us to where we want to be. However, having watched the stream yesterday, we looked washed out. Like a bright t-shirt that's been in the wash too many times. So I am now worried. If it's in our heads, it will be in the players and managements heads. That's going to further affect performances. The ideal would be to string a couple of wins together to get momentum back, but what's the chances of that with last season's exploits coming to the fore in the players minds? It was not nice to hear the Sheffield fans singing "Leeds are falling apart again".

Time for management at all levels to step up now. At least this is the month we can do something about it. Paddy is clearly misfiring, for all his effort up and down the pitch. And you have to feel sorry for him in a way because it's the lack of height in our defence that forces him to come back to the goal line whenever the opponents have a set-piece opportunity. How is a lightning breakaway goal going to happen when he is so far back? That said, he is missing opportunites (as are other players who should be chipping in with goals) so let's get into the transfer market to freshen up our attack. This collapse could have occurred in February, when there would have been no alternative but to soldier on. It hasn't. It's time to grasp the nettle and not repeat the mistakes of last year.

[The Subhuman]

I think MB has been treading water hoping to get whatever he could till he could get Pablo back in the line up. I think he starts next week which forces Dallas back to left back or the bench

[1964white]

I think MB has been treading water hoping to get whatever he could till he could get Pablo back in the line up. I think he starts next week which forces Dallas back to left back or the bench

I doubt Dallas will be fit, he looked badly injured at the end of the game

[The Subhuman]

I'd forgotten that tbf...

[1964white]

Well that didn't go as we hoped for

Said to my Leeds pals around me with 25 minutes to go "I'd take a draw" which sounds a daft thing to say when we are playing at ER.

Positives

We were in control in the first half even though we lacked urgency.
We created good chances.
Kalvin Phillips.
Jack Harrison sublime control at times.
Hernandez is back!

Negatives

Missed chances, how many did we sky wide or over the bar.
Bamford powder-puff shooting & appalling headers.
Harrison miss from six yards, an open goal.
Costa so poor.
Casilla beaten at his near post.
Cooper & Alioski also caught out for the Owls first goal.
Ayling done by Reach who finds Nuhiu with three defenders around him ball watching
Beilsa's team selection.
Why play Dallas in midfield, surely Pablo & Shackleton could have mustered 45 minutes each.
Clean sheets gone out with the washing since Dallas vacated his wing-back role.
Dallas should have gone to LB if that change was necessary
Bielsa's substitutions
Alioski on for Douglas....really !
Alioski is not a defender, caught out of position three times in the 35 minutes he was on, hasn't got the positional sense to play that role.
Why bring on a 19 yo kid who is wet behind the ears & is clearly not ready for championship football.
Owls have two strikers on the bench, one that gave us hell at Hillsborough & punished us yesterday.
We have no alternative upfront.
Dallas looked crocked at the end.
First defeat at ER since August v Swansea.

Ratings

4 Casilla
6 Ayling
7 White
6 Cooper
6 Douglas
8 Phillips MOTM
5 Costa
5 Dallas
6 Klich
7 Harrison
5 Bamford
Subs
5 Hernandez
4 Alioski
5 Stevens

[gessa]

Well what can you say about that performance, disjointed is one of the kinder words,even so we should have been 3 up by the hour, even though I haven't seen it back Bamford's second chance looked a push and a penalty, Sheff Wed were a poor team, which makes it even worse, they worked hard and most of any of their chances was created by us giving the ball away far to often.

Kiko - 5- We're now seeing the Kiko of old, which is not good, he had very little to do but his distribution, what he is acclaimed for was poor yesterday and for some reason very slow at getting the ball away. Should never have been beaten at the near post for the first goal, very poor keeping.

Ayling-6 Another mixture of the good and the bad from Ayling, part of his problem for me is his passion, his will to win,when he gets forward he forgets he is a defender too, which causes holes defensively

Cooper- 6 Same as Ayling, what frustrates is his poor play on the simple things, once yesterday he took the ball down, left their forward for dead with his touch, carried it forward with nice tight control, only to whack it out wide to the right straight to a defender, he'd done the hard work.

White - 7 I thought it was a better performance than his league games since Boro, was partly at fault for the second but did well otherwise, some great interceptions, reads the game well.

Douglas 5 Had a decent first half an hour but hasn't the pace to get back and his passing wasn't as good as it should be, which we were told was one of his stronger points

Phillips - 8 Battled all game, looked weaker when Klich went off, having to cover more ground, which left him out of position a couple of times.

Dallas- 5 - Like the lad but he's no CM player, lost possession a few times with taking the wrong option on the pass.

Klich 7.5 Most of what we created came from him, he wasn't offside for the disallowed goal, we looked a lot worse when he was bewilderingly substituted

Costa 3 He just doesn't do it for me, he's weak, gets taken off the ball far too easily, can't tackle, he marks his defender, never seems to look for space to lose his man, he's been a real disappointment, hopefully Shackleton will be fully fit soon and is given the position

Harrison 7- Has a lovely first touch but lets himself down at times with the final ball, should have scored, first half especially he was finding himself plenty of space only not to get the ball, must have been very frustrating for him.

Bamford 5 Feel sorry for him, imo he's being asked to do too much, he doesn't stop running, asked to get back to cover corners up and down a lot, always chasing, he should have buried the chance from the one good thing Costa did , his second chance he was fouled, noticed from my lofty position yesterday how often he tried to lose his marker, pointing to where he wanted the ball putting but not getting the pass, you could see the frustration on his face. He needs more help, not a signing i was excited about but I will never slag a player who puts in the effort and he certainly does that, his natural game is not the one we play. Infact, I'd say there are few around who could play for 90 minutes the way we want a striker to play.

Subs


Alioski 2 - Woeful performance both offensively and defensively
Hernandez 6. Tried hard to motivate and played some nice passes out wide only for them to come to nothing. Looked a little off the pace but to be expected.
Stevens 3 from the few cameo displays he doesn't look ready to me.


Poor substitutions from Bielsa yesterday, non made sense.

[1964white]

Well what can you say about that performance, disjointed is one of the kinder words,even so we should have been 3 up by the hour, even though I haven't seen it back Bamford's second chance looked a push and a penalty, Sheff Wed were a poor team, which makes it even worse, they worked hard and most of any of their chances was created by us giving the ball away far to often.

Kiko - 5- We're now seeing the Kiko of old, which is not good, he had very little to do but his distribution, what he is acclaimed for was poor yesterday and for some reason very slow at getting the ball away. Should never have been beaten at the near post for the first goal, very poor keeping.

Ayling-6 Another mixture of the good and the bad from Ayling, part of his problem for me is his passion, his will to win,when he gets forward he forgets he is a defender too, which causes holes defensively

Cooper- 6 Same as Ayling, what frustrates is his poor play on the simple things, once yesterday he took the ball down, left their forward for dead with his touch, carried it forward with nice tight control, only to whack it out wide to the right straight to a defender, he'd done the hard work.

White - 7 I thought it was a better performance than his league games since Boro, was partly at fault for the second but did well otherwise, some great interceptions, reads the game well.

Douglas 5 Had a decent first half an hour but hasn't the pace to get back and his passing wasn't as good as it should be, which we were told was one of his stronger points

Phillips - 8 Battled all game, looked weaker when Klich went off, having to cover more ground, which left him out of position a couple of times.

Dallas- 5 - Like the lad but he's no CM player, lost possession a few times with taking the wrong option on the pass.

Klich 7.5 Most of what we created came from him, he wasn't offside for the disallowed goal, we looked a lot worse when he was bewilderingly substituted

Costa 3 He just doesn't do it for me, he's weak, gets taken off the ball far too easily, can't tackle, he marks his defender, never seems to look for space to lose his man, he's been a real disappointment, hopefully Shackleton will be fully fit soon and is given the position

Harrison 7- Has a lovely first touch but lets himself down at times with the final ball, should have scored, first half especially he was finding himself plenty of space only not to get the ball, must have been very frustrating for him.

Bamford 5 Feel sorry for him, imo he's being asked to do too much, he doesn't stop running, asked to get back to cover corners up and down a lot, always chasing, he should have buried the chance from the one good thing Costa did , his second chance he was fouled, noticed from my lofty position yesterday how often he tried to lose his marker, pointing to where he wanted the ball putting but not getting the pass, you could see the frustration on his face. He needs more help, not a signing i was excited about but I will never slag a player who puts in the effort and he certainly does that, his natural game is not the one we play. Infact, I'd say there are few around who could play for 90 minutes the way we want a striker to play.

Subs


Alioski 2 - Woeful performance both offensively and defensively
Hernandez 6. Tried hard to motivate and played some nice passes out wide only for them to come to nothing. Looked a little off the pace but to be expected.
Stevens 3 from the few cameo displays he doesn't look ready to me.


Poor substitutions from Bielsa yesterday, non made sense.

Can't argue with any of that mate

If Bielsa plays Alioski at LWB again I'm gonna do a Bonnie Langford.....I'll scream I'll scream I'll scream

As for Cooper, he ran much better in the 3.00 race at Warwick yesterday

[1964white]

Ironically Bamford heads the ball in the net & it's disallowed

[1964white]

Well what can you say about that performance, disjointed is one of the kinder words,even so we should have been 3 up by the hour, even though I haven't seen it back Bamford's second chance looked a push and a penalty, Sheff Wed were a poor team, which makes it even worse, they worked hard and most of any of their chances was created by us giving the ball away far to often.

Our match analysis & ratings are almost identical mate

[dezzy]

Well what can you say about that performance, disjointed is one of the kinder words,even so we should have been 3 up by the hour, even though I haven't seen it back Bamford's second chance looked a push and a penalty, Sheff Wed were a poor team, which makes it even worse, they worked hard and most of any of their chances was created by us giving the ball away far to often.

Kiko - 5- We're now seeing the Kiko of old, which is not good, he had very little to do but his distribution, what he is acclaimed for was poor yesterday and for some reason very slow at getting the ball away. Should never have been beaten at the near post for the first goal, very poor keeping.

Ayling-6 Another mixture of the good and the bad from Ayling, part of his problem for me is his passion, his will to win,when he gets forward he forgets he is a defender too, which causes holes defensively

Cooper- 6 Same as Ayling, what frustrates is his poor play on the simple things, once yesterday he took the ball down, left their forward for dead with his touch, carried it forward with nice tight control, only to whack it out wide to the right straight to a defender, he'd done the hard work.

White - 7 I thought it was a better performance than his league games since Boro, was partly at fault for the second but did well otherwise, some great interceptions, reads the game well.

Douglas 5 Had a decent first half an hour but hasn't the pace to get back and his passing wasn't as good as it should be, which we were told was one of his stronger points

Phillips - 8 Battled all game, looked weaker when Klich went off, having to cover more ground, which left him out of position a couple of times.

Dallas- 5 - Like the lad but he's no CM player, lost possession a few times with taking the wrong option on the pass.

Klich 7.5 Most of what we created came from him, he wasn't offside for the disallowed goal, we looked a lot worse when he was bewilderingly substituted

Costa 3 He just doesn't do it for me, he's weak, gets taken off the ball far too easily, can't tackle, he marks his defender, never seems to look for space to lose his man, he's been a real disappointment, hopefully Shackleton will be fully fit soon and is given the position

Harrison 7- Has a lovely first touch but lets himself down at times with the final ball, should have scored, first half especially he was finding himself plenty of space only not to get the ball, must have been very frustrating for him.

Bamford 5 Feel sorry for him, imo he's being asked to do too much, he doesn't stop running, asked to get back to cover corners up and down a lot, always chasing, he should have buried the chance from the one good thing Costa did , his second chance he was fouled, noticed from my lofty position yesterday how often he tried to lose his marker, pointing to where he wanted the ball putting but not getting the pass, you could see the frustration on his face. He needs more help, not a signing i was excited about but I will never slag a player who puts in the effort and he certainly does that, his natural game is not the one we play. Infact, I'd say there are few around who could play for 90 minutes the way we want a striker to play.

Subs


Alioski 2 - Woeful performance both offensively and defensively
Hernandez 6. Tried hard to motivate and played some nice passes out wide only for them to come to nothing. Looked a little off the pace but to be expected.
Stevens 3 from the few cameo displays he doesn't look ready to me.


Poor substitutions from Bielsa yesterday, non made sense.

Interesting what you say about Bamford and I think your spot on, he is asked to do far too much work and it takes away from his finishing ability which on a whole this season has been very poor,

[gessa]

Our match analysis & ratings are almost identical mate

Great minds

[The Subhuman]

I disagree, I think you could ask Paddy to do a lot less and he still would struggle to score consistently..His limitations will always work against him.

[gessa]

Interesting what you say about Bamford and I think your spot on, he is asked to do far too much work and it takes away from his finishing ability which on a whole this season has been very poor,

I'm not sure he's ever been great finisher, more a player to bring on for the last 20 or 30 like at Bolton last season., where the game was bypassing Roofe.

[1964white]

Great minds

You marked down Alioski lower than me.

Now you can see what he's all about watching from the East Stand

[gessa]

You marked down Alioski lower than me.

Now you can see what he's all about watching from the East Stand

Never ever thought he was a defender but as often given us something going forward, his passing and decision making was awful yesterday

[1964white]

Interesting what you say about Bamford and I think your spot on, he is asked to do far too much work and it takes away from his finishing ability which on a whole this season has been very poor,

What Bamford does is stand at the near post for every corner/set piece & often clears crosses as he is the first man helping out our CB's Cooper & White.

You don't see Cooper & White returning favours when we have a corner at the other end, both are as much use as the man in the moon in an attacking sense!

[dezzy]

I'm not sure he's ever been great finisher, more a player to bring on for the last 20 or 30 like at Bolton last season., where the game was bypassing Roofe.

On the evidence from his time at least you wouldn’t say so, good player but we are lacking that killer instinct, not sure what price range a player who puts in the work he does and has the killer touch would be, we need somebody to put the pressure on him for his place