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25/04/2021
Elland Road
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115
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27
Won
38
Drawn
50
Lost
-53
GD
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55
Played
15
Won
17
Drawn
23
Lost
-8
GD
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Win %
DateGroundScoreCompetition
20/12/2020 Old Trafford 6–2 L Premier League
20/09/2011 Elland Road 0–3 L Carling Cup 3rd Round
03/01/2010 Old Trafford 0–1 W FA Cup 3rd Round
21/02/2004 Old Trafford 1–1 D Premier League
28/10/2003 Elland Road 2–3 L Carling Cup 3rd Round
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2 Billy Bremner 5
3 Charlie Keetley 5
4 Allan Clarke 5
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Def Llorente
Def Struijk
Def Alioski
Mid Phillips
Mid Costa
Def Dallas
For Roberts
Mid Harrison
For Bamford
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SG90 wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:01 pm So frustrating. Scum were there for the taking, easily our worst performance of the season. Far too many passengers not up for the fight, it wouldn't have been like that with fans there.
I have to disagree on that point SG

All our defensive players come out of that game with credit.
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Ron Swanson wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:44 pm Harrison, Costa and Roberts were all shite.

None of them should be in the side for the next game.
Squad players at best :tup:
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SG90 wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 4:14 pm Shame Struijk will be dropped for Cooper. :roll:
I truly hope not, thought Pascal was superb today.

In our five clean sheets since Christmas Struijk has played as a CB in all of them.
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A messy game lacking attacking quality but a workmanlike performance & a great point for Leeds.

Llorente, Struijk & Philips were absolutely superb. Meslier, Ayling & Alioski also played their part at the back.

Really impressed how we snuffed out a team sitting 2nd in the premier league table.

Sadly we missed the class of Raphinha going forward.
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1964white wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 4:39 pm I truly hope not, thought Pascal was superb today.

In our five clean sheets since Christmas Struijk has played as a CB in all of them.
But everyone said that last time. Of course Cooper waltzes straight back in.
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1964white wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 4:46 pm A messy game lacking attacking quality but a workmanlike performance & a great point for Leeds.

Llorente, Struijk & Philips were absolutely superb. Meslier, Ayling & Alioski also played their part at the back.

Really impressed how we snuffed out a team sitting 2nd in the premier league table.

Sadly we missed the class of Raphinha going forward.
This :tup:
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DDB220 wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 4:29 pm Raphinia could do that but we do not want to become reliant on one player. Even though it could be argued we currently are in terms of creativity.
Potentially, Traore could be the answer if Wolves are willing to let him go and we can get him.
We dont, very true but an out and out striker wouldn't appeal to Bielsa (remember Eddie and JKA) so we would need to sign someone more versatile imo.

A winger who can play up front or aa AM who can play false 9 perhaps.

Raph can definitely do that role to but thats if we sign a winger which i hope we do.

Not a big Traore fan tbh, very little substance and Bielsa would want him to lose a few stone of muscle mass.
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SG90 wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 4:48 pm But everyone said that last time. Of course Cooper waltzes straight back in.
Would be a really poor decision if he did, the pecking order is secondary to the performances and Struijk and Llorente have been very solid.
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Cjay wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 5:28 pm Would be a really poor decision if he did, the pecking order is secondary to the performances and Struijk and Llorente have been very solid.
Marcelo likes to stick with the same team win, lose or draw.

The pecking order concerns me :o
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The pecking order only really consists of Cooper, Ayling and Dallas, as the three senior players at the club.

Cooper has done very well to bring himself up to the level where he can be considered alongside Llorente and Koch... whilst Struijk has improved beyond any realistic expectations.

A top half finish and selection dilemmas probably weren’t both in the script for the season, but we are where we are.

It means we can concentrate on multiple fronts next term, if we bring in the right bodies in the summer.
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My views on watching the game were playing wise it was pretty much even stevens which is very much in our favour given the huge difference in class and player values.

The ref was horrendous. He was giving out yellow cards like confetti to our players. I believe he gave one to theirs, could be wrong...

I saw 3 handballs by their players which just went unchecked. One was mentioned on Sky which was (as per usual) unavoidable by their player!!

We were on the ball and heading towards goal, two of our players hacked down, play went on.... nothing given, not looked back at.

I know Bielsa is into the fair play thing but this is really hindering us in this league. Every other team go down so easily, we have been trained to get back up and keep playing, we play fairly but it is not doing us any favours.

I would have so loved us to get a late goal and stuff it up em!!

Going back to Cooper's red card, their player stayed on the pitch.... Raphinha's cynical take out has kept him out of our last 2 games, surely it is now time to look at this kind of thing? Maybe this would eradicate the cheating?

Glad we took a point but would have preferred 3.

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Not the most entertaining game nor our most pleasing performance but I loved the grit , determination and pragmatism today. Especially against THEM .

Dare I say it, are we getting harder to beat , and harder to score against ?
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becchio bear wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 6:29 pm My views on watching the game were playing wise it was pretty much even stevens which is very much in our favour given the huge difference in class and player values.

The ref was horrendous. He was giving out yellow cards like confetti to our players. I believe he gave one to theirs, could be wrong...

I saw 3 handballs by their players which just went unchecked. One was mentioned on Sky which was (as per usual) unavoidable by their player!!

We were on the ball and heading towards goal, two of our players hacked down, play went on.... nothing given, not looked back at.

I know Bielsa is into the fair play thing but this is really hindering us in this league. Every other team go down so easily, we have been trained to get back up and keep playing, we play fairly but it is not doing us any favours.

I would have so loved us to get a late goal and stuff it up em!!

Going back to Cooper's red card, their player stayed on the pitch.... Raphinha's cynical take out has kept him out of our last 2 games, surely it is now time to look at this kind of thing? Maybe this would eradicate the cheating?

Glad we took a point but would have preferred 3.

:bear:
Totally agree with this summary.

As others have mentioned, I was also very disappointed with Harrison, Costa and Roberts. There is no physical presence between them, hesitating in the tackle, not covering back. This gave Man U impetus on the wings and limited our out of defence options.

Also very disappointed with Klich when he came on - he looked like he had played the whole game. Time to move on here I think.
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1964white wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 5:44 pm Marcelo likes to stick with the same team win, lose or draw.

The pecking order concerns me :o
Me to.

It clearly works to a point just aslong as he doesnt let loyalty get in the way of progress.
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RebelWhite wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 6:40 pm
Dare I say it, are we getting harder to beat , and harder to score against ?
You’d be right. In four games against top 6 sides (against the best attacks in the country), we have conceded only 2 goals in more than 6 hours of football. And one of them was when we had 10 men.
Pretty sure our defence (including Alioski), is Premier League quality.
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Last two games have been our Championship side plus a 19m pound defender against two of the most expensive sides in the world.
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Would love to see a VAR representative try to explain how Shaw did not commit a handball offence worthy of a penalty yet Newcastle’s striker committed an offence worthy of having a goal disallowed.
Why aren’t clubs and fans coming together to get rid of this blight on the game?
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Aussieleeds wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:54 pm Last two games have been our Championship side plus a 19m pound defender against two of the most expensive sides in the world.
And that defender is a replacement for Ben White, who Brighton wanted 30m+ for, so it really just our Championship side.
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