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20/02/2022
Elland Road
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Not boring by any stretch. I wouldn't call it fun though basically knowing your going to get spanked.
I really hope he doesn't oversee a relegation..
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McTominay should of been sent off for foul on Koch ball is away!!

First half goals conceded poor both avoidable, firpo gives up.

Ilan and Diego poor at corner.

Second half changes made far better Geldhart and Raph! Making a difference both have to start against Liverpool.

Goals lost second half poor, but team tired near the end after big effort to get back in game.

7/10 for Marcelo.

Made changes and made a difference.

Unlucky not to get more out game, McTominay seems to be a reincarnation of Scott Brown, as he seems to be Able to kick everything that moves and get away with it, Luke Shaw England International 😂 whatever I've seen better Sunday league player's.

I believe different game if you have injured player's available, keep the head up keep fighting for club and Marcelo, you are staying up said you are staying up 👍.
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Broad Ford wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 4:13 pm A good spirited performance with bite and fighting spirit, but 4 goals conceded brings the drop even closer.

I'm still confident Leeds will survive.
I wish I had your confidence, i see us in the bottom 3 very soon and just fear we will stumble through the crucial period of march/April and emerge with only a handful of points
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 4:10 pm Stand by my half time comments.

Thought bringing Raph on and Gelhardt was the right changes (although Raph should never have been benched if he isn't injured).

Showed spirit 2nd half and could have scored more.

But as everyone says now, pundits, opposition fans, media, we are far far to open defensively and you can't concede the amount of chances we do and expect to win very often at the top level.

It might be exciting attacking football but it is schoolboy defensively and that isn't admirable by any means.

No clean sheets in months and 50 goals conceded which over a season would be 79 conceded which is the 4th worst by any Premier league team in a decade (and all of the 3 other teams were relegated).
Only 3 clean sheets all season.
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CHAPELALLMAN wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 4:11 pm I think it was brutal the way the club sacked Wilko - after two championship wins in 3 years and top 5 finishes in 4 out of 5 of the seasons that he managed us in the first division.
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McTominay was ridiculous. Should have been sent off multiple times.

A lot of tired legs out there at the end; their substitutes took full advantage.

I hate losing to those bastards.
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 4:14 pm Just seen a stat on twitter.

We have conceded 2 goals or more in 13 of our 24 League matches so needed to score 3 goals or more in 54% of our league matches to have any chance of a win.
And how many goals we scored this season the average must not ook good
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Scoobychief wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 4:21 pm And how many goals we scored this season the average must not look good
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velo wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 3:59 pm And who do you want to replace him?
It's too late now unfortunately. I'd have made a change after the Arsenal game, so we could've got some January signings in.

Just gotta hope those below us fail to catch us.
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SG90 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 4:19 pm Only 3 clean sheets all season.
Need to get a better washing machine :)
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CHAPELALLMAN wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 4:06 pm Conceding 4 goals at home in this fixture resulted in Wilko's sacking. And frankly he was a vastly better manager.
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I'm just waiting for someone to say that Koch's injury was due to over training.
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Unfortunately I think we will be down. We sometimes play some lovely football, yes, but we are just not up to the physical side of the game and we allow opposition forwards so much space its no surprise we just concede for fun.
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Can't wait for this rotten season to be over, but just gotta hope it won't be our last PL season for a while.
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Raphinha was dropped, Bielsa confirmed that, no mention of an injury.
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John in Louisiana wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 4:21 pm McTominay was ridiculous. Should have been sent off multiple times.

A lot of tired legs out there at the end; their substitutes took full advantage.

I hate losing to those bastards.
Spot on similar to Antonio earlier in season who ended up scoring winning goal, should of never been on pitch.

If that had happened at St James Park the ref would of been lynched!!.
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 4:26 pm Raphinha was dropped, Bielsa confirmed that, no mention of an injury.
Just goes to show you only get dropped if you fall out, not due to poor form.
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SG90 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 4:23 pm It's too late now unfortunately. I'd have made a change after the Arsenal game, so we could've got some January signings in.

Just gotta hope those below us fail to catch us.
But would we have invested? I doubt it , Radz are going to sell us down the river liker Bates
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There is no doubting Bielsa has persisted with the same tactics as last year. This is the way he plays, the often quoted phrase on this forum that “He has been tactically found out’ is a complete misnomer. There is nothing to find out. This is the way he plays - other managers just have to combat it. Our problem is that the team is just not as good as a unit, as it was last season. There are many reasons for that, but CJAY called it pre-season regarding not strengthening in the right areas.
Add to that the injuries and that lack of depth has led to a perfect storm for this brand of football unravelling on too many occasions.
I still do not think we will be relegated and on balance, despite the hair loss, shredded nerves and having no finger nails I would still prefer to watch a Bielsa Leeds than a turgid percentage affair. Yeah we might be better off by a couple of points but with this squad we would still be struggling.
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velo wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 4:27 pm But would we have invested? I doubt it , Radz are going to sell us down the river liker Bates
No but we'd have got a couple of loans in.
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