Leeds Utd 0-3 Chelsea Match Thread - Post Match Debate.

[Kennyb41]

And i don't care if he told them to run round the training pitch with pork sausages stuffed up their nose, he knew how to get the best out of the gash he inherited and had bought for him for Christmas off a clown

[Hickco84]

I told ya after that Palace game i cannot see where another point is coming from, it was a fcking disgrace and we will lose ALL our last 5 games, the guys a maniac, you got what you wished for and i'm going to die before leeds ever have any success again and it's all the fault of the sack Bert brigade, the only enjoyment i will get now from following Leeds will be to say i told you so.
And that is sad but it's gonna be a fact, and i am hardly EVER wrong, BUT i will be the first to hold my hand up if it happens in my lifetime.

Damage was done long before now. Weather it was MB or the board being cheap in Jan its hurt us. TBH I think it was a combo of both. Everyone invested at Jan but us Norwich and Watford and that is telling. If MB didn't want anyone we'll then that is when we should have parted company. As much as I love the loved MB for achieving what he did, the club should have been more ruthless.

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[Kennyb41]

He needed the Cavalry back for us to perform at our best.
And even without those 3 he would've got the results to keep us up.

Ok hand on heart now, who would you sooner be in control versus BHA and Brentford coming up, btw it's no contest is your answer.

[Hickco84]

The calvary hasn't been avaliable, all 3 since before Christmas so that is null and void. Maybe we were down then. I don't want to get into a MB vs JM argument hinsight is a wonderful concept. We have been more soild with JM but lacking in the attacking department. MB I think very obvious lost the dressing room and TBH I think JM has now too the key difference is will the same players then next season? If we stay up this season or go down. One thing must be done if performances and results arent up to scratch JM goes.

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[BlackHillsPaul]

No one is saying Yanks are crap Paul. They are not. But the signing of Jesse to coach an English Premier football club fighting for Premier league survival was just weird. Is soccer in the states the third ranked sport after Football and baseball? Leeds should have employed someone who knew enough to try to get us out of the mess we are in. Not an unknown/unproven (wherever they are from) when we clearly needed someone who knew exactly what they were taking on and how to deal with it.

I"m not defending Marsch. This is a results business. All of the criticism is fair game. I'm simply punching back at some of the anti-American sentiment that permeates this board. From my point of view it is blatant and unnecessary.

[hector]

I"m not defending Marsch. This is a results business. All of the criticism is fair game. I'm simply punching back at some of the anti-American sentiment that permeates this board. From my point of view it is blatant and unnecessary.

Fully agree Paul.
Direct critisism of Marsch is fine, but racist slurs against Americans will be deleted in the future.
I appologise for not noticing it earlier.

[Jaydog]

All I ever read is what MB would of done if he’d stayed not what he did do while he was here this season. 23 points from 26 games is relegation form, it’s putting you on course for the mid 30’s over a full season. If you’re going to live in that fantasy world then Marsch would be on course for 40 minimum. Pointless conjecture. So many reasons why it’s all gone wrong, hardly fair to point the finger at Marsch. Saying that my gut feeling is he isn’t up to it and we’d struggle in either league next year with him in charge.

[VinnysTattoo]

We will never know if MB was still in charge if we would be in the bottom three now. The debate is what a forum is for, hence Kenny’s blind devotion, I mean opinion

The only point that matters is that we are where we are because we deserve to be there. The reason for this is we are not good enough.

MB did wonders until he burnt them out because of lack of new blood. JM has tried his methods and has come up short and this should come as little surprise to anyone.

Is JM the right man for the job? IMO no, but it was a dire situation to be introduced to.

Motivational talks can only mask a lack of quality for so long.

[whiteswan]

I told ya after that Palace game i cannot see where another point is coming from, it was a fcking disgrace and we will lose ALL our last 5 games, the guys a maniac, you got what you wished for and i'm going to die before leeds ever have any success again and it's all the fault of the sack Bert brigade, the only enjoyment i will get now from following Leeds will be to say i told you so.
And that is sad but it's gonna be a fact, and i am hardly EVER wrong, BUT i will be the first to hold my hand up if it happens in my lifetime.

Will you stop telling me that I got what I wished for when I didn't.

Thank you kind sir. Stop tarring everyone with the same brush

[whiteswan]

I"m not defending Marsch. This is a results business. All of the criticism is fair game. I'm simply punching back at some of the anti-American sentiment that permeates this board. From my point of view it is blatant and unnecessary.

Well certainly not from me

[1964white]

The Square Ball team says it all.

[White Riot]

All I ever read is what MB would of done if he’d stayed not what he did do while he was here this season. 23 points from 26 games is relegation form, it’s putting you on course for the mid 30’s over a full season. If you’re going to live in that fantasy world then Marsch would be on course for 40 minimum. Pointless conjecture. So many reasons why it’s all gone wrong, hardly fair to point the finger at Marsch. Saying that my gut feeling is he isn’t up to it and we’d struggle in either league next year with him in charge.

Good post Jay

You could be right mate.

Sorry state of affairs at LUFC since last season ended

[White Riot]

The Square Ball team says it all.

It's painful watching the YouTubers going through the same torture as us, that's been inflicted by our beloved club

[Jaydog]

Will you stop telling me that I got what I wished for when I didn't.

Thank you kind sir. Stop tarring everyone with the same brush

You are so polite. I’m less polite and also prefer not to be tarred with the MB brush. Sometimes Kenny reminds me of a punter in my shop when I was a bookie manager back in the day. “Told ya it would win, told ya, told ya”. Jeez I wanted to knock the stupid idiot out some days. Thing is he mentioned every horse in the race. After the whistle merchant. I don’t ever hear him criticise MB, surely he wasn’t perfect. I just wish MB had budged an inch, just a tad. Why didn’t he do that.

[White Riot]

I"m not defending Marsch. This is a results business. All of the criticism is fair game. I'm simply punching back at some of the anti-American sentiment that permeates this board. From my point of view it is blatant and unnecessary.

Hi Paul,

Sorry if some of our supporters have been posting drivel that's anti-American.

Don't take it as anything more than a few numpties talking tripe again.

[White Riot]

We will never know if MB was still in charge if we would be in the bottom three now. The debate is what a forum is for, hence Kenny’s blind devotion, I mean opinion

The only point that matters is that we are where we are because we deserve to be there. The reason for this is we are not good enough.

MB did wonders until he burnt them out because of lack of new blood. JM has tried his methods and has come up short and this should come as little surprise to anyone.

Is JM the right man for the job? IMO no, but it was a dire situation to be introduced to.

Motivational talks can only mask a lack of quality for so long.

Yep, good post VT

Gotta say we wrung the life out of this squad and they just aren't good enough, it's shown all season.

[Overman]

Hi Paul,

Sorry if some of our supporters have been posting drivel that's anti-American.

Don't take it as anything more than a few numpties talking tripe again.

Agreed, there's been far too many vast generalistions about Americans. It's totally uncalled for and arrogant.

[White Riot]

Agreed, there's been far too many vast generalistions about Americans. It's totally uncalled for and arrogant.

Yes OM.

I can't remember the same bilge about our previous foreign coaches?

Even the Scottish ones

[Kennyb41]

You are so polite. I’m less polite and also prefer not to be tarred with the MB brush. Sometimes Kenny reminds me of a punter in my shop when I was a bookie manager back in the day. “Told ya it would win, told ya, told ya”. Jeez I wanted to knock the stupid idiot out some days. Thing is he mentioned every horse in the race. After the whistle merchant. I don’t ever hear him criticise MB, surely he wasn’t perfect. I just wish MB had budged an inch, just a tad. Why didn’t he do that.

He had a couple of minor faults because his hands were tied, but the many positives far outweigh them.

[Kennyb41]

Agreed, there's been far too many vast generalistions about Americans. It's totally uncalled for and arrogant.

Yeah i agree, i like to think of the stick an English coach would come in for managing one of their NFL teams