The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 8th November) Is it time to cut ties with Bamford

[Ellandback1]

Good Morning. It's Wednesday 8th November, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...


Is it time to cut ties with Bamford

With the January transfer market fast approaching, Daniel Farke has some important decisions to make, as he attempts to steer West Yorkshire's finest to the promised land; but knows he must make sacrifices if he is to bring new blood in!

At 30, Patrick Bamford should have at least another good couple of years in him, but his performances tell a different story. Putting all his injuries to one side, the one time England star seems off the pace, even in the Championship. He should be at least asking questions of an out of form Joel Piroe, but seems content to see out his remaining three years, going through the motions, and why wouldn't he!

Since coming back from injury (at Southampton) six weeks ago, the one time England star has amassed 99 minutes of game time from seven substitute appearances, accruing an average 'Whoscored' rating of just 6.18, placing him 21st in the Leeds line up. Even after relegation, both 'Spotrac' and 'Capology' suggest Bamford is earning £70,000 a week, or just over £300,000 a month. If Leeds can find a club willing to take over his contract, should Leeds let him go?





Will Firpo be a hit under Farke

Since arriving at Elland Road almost two and a half years ago, Junior Firpo's tenure has been blighted by mediocre performances and injury. The Whites inadequacies at left-back are well documented, and stretch back years. After missing out on Romain Perraud (who proved as useful as a chocolate teapot for Southampton), the ER faithful thought Leeds had hit the jackpot, when Victor Orta raided the Nou Camp.

Firpo now has a chance to prove his doubters wrong, and work his ways into Daniel Farke's plans. His attacking play is good, and if he can improve on his defensive responsibilities, perhaps he's nail down the role on a permanent basis.





Leeds eyeing up move for Iraqi International

Reports from the Capital suggest Leeds are lining up a bid for Iraqi International Ali Al-Hamadi. The 21 year old striker currently applies his trade with AFC Wimbledon, but came come through the academy of Tranmere Rovers. He joined the Dons during the January transfer window for a minimal fee (from Wycombe Wanderers) where his career has suddenly taken off.

In 33 appearances, he has netted 14 times already, and is fast becoming a player in demand. Wimbledon have already turned away offers from both Barnsley and Peterborough, and have slapped a £1.2m price tag on the youngster, which would be a record transfer for the South West London outfit.

[Kennyb41]

Ouch ! Leave my sides alone with that feckin stick !

It annoys the fck out of me that PB earns £70k a week, yes i'd get shut at the earliest opportunity that we've got, jeez it's been a feckin shambles that we still seem to have to rely on the biscuit, even now is not the ideal time coz we've feck all decent cover up front, but yes get him off the feckin books asap.

Firpo - Please lord don't let us have to find out i'm right about him, and keep him as far away from the pitch as is humanly possible, keep eBygum blessed with an injury free season for us oh lord please

Get this kid signed - what could go wrong, the clown has gone.

[Orange Box]

$urely there’s a DoF for a team in the $andy Dunes Arabian league with blood and oil money falling out of his pockets willing to take a punt on Bamford? The sunshine will do his injury prone body the world of good, I’m sure of it. He played for England dontcha know.

As for Firpo, I’m interested to see whether DF can do job on him. Who knows? That said, it wouldn’t bother me if I don’t get to see that. Little Sam is doing a cracking job back there.

[WhiteRose]

Bamford has cost us a lot recently, as bad as we were as a team last season there’s an argument that if he had scored his penalties and easy chances he had we could still have stayed up, also cost us 3 points at Stoke. As a sports fan I’ve got a soft spot for him though, desperately unlucky with injuries, he has always been a player that goes on scoring streaks and he just hasn’t had the opportunity for a long time to start another one - Piroe isn’t pulling up trees and I’d like to see bamford given a chance with rutter as a 10.

[ruttermania]

The short answer is No. Bamford is head and shoulders above the majority of strikers in the Championship and once he gets one goal he'll probably be good for 10 in 15 games . Probably needs one like Rutters the other night to get him started but I believe that he is still a top class striker and the lack of pressure will allow that to re-emerge . Firpo is a decent player but again needs a bit of luck with injuries to get a decent run and it will take a lot to dislodge Byram .

[Clacton White]

Yes . Get rid .

[Clacton White]

The short answer is No. Bamford is head and shoulders above the majority of strikers in the Championship and once he gets one goal he'll probably be good for 10 in 15 games . Probably needs one like Rutters the other night to get him started but I believe that he is still a top class striker and the lack of pressure will allow that to re-emerge . Firpo is a decent player but again needs a bit of luck with injuries to get a decent run and it will take a lot to dislodge Byram .

More likely to get injured imo .

[Byebyegeegee]

I wouldn’t mind seeing Bamford go now, he’s so unreliable these days (he always has been, in truth) with injuries, missed penalties and missed chances. Unfortunately, unless he himself is prepared to take a probably large pay cut, it won’t happen because he’s simply not value for his wage.

Like Ken, I think I’ve seen enough of Firpo to be pretty sure he’s not up to the required grade. He may have more chance at Championship level to prove his worth, but I’m not convinced.

[Kennyb41]

I'm of the impression that DF and the 49er's are in a roundabout way starting from scratch whilst rescuing what they can for the time being from our scrapyard of scrap cars, and he'll be in the process of scraping Ayling, Cooper, Bamford, and some of the youth he feels aren't suited to him.

I'm happy with how he's done a number of things up to now, again whilst trying to form some sort of balance throughout, what with the handling of the loaned out so called superstars that i, in the main, consider shite, bar a couple.

I'm impressed with DF's chat and his subtleties like having 2 keepers on the bench, which spoke volumes.

It is NOT a sprint to the top like some children would like to see, Bert did pretty miraculous with what he took over, raised his own money, but then got severely hampered with our ex residential clown and some heavy misfortune.

DF is now trying to do the same in sorting the wheat from the chaff and i love it when i can see a manager doing the things that i myself think need doing, and there's a helluva lot more things being done right than wrong, there are going to obviously be bumps along the way like a bad signing or 3, but up to now what's not to like about - Rodon, Ampadu, Kamara, eBygum and Piroe, then take into consideration the work he has done on Gray, Pascal, Summerville, Rutter, Meslier and James.

We also are still actually waiting to see if PB and Spence can add anything more, Gnonto to me is a 'fly in the ointment, that i'm sure he'll address correctly.

He's getting our house in order, it will not happen overnight, we have no idea how the Wober, Llorente, Koch, Rasmus, Aaronson, Harrison, Sinisterra situ's will pan out, but all i know is he's got to get shut of Orta's shite and slowly progress his OWN team, that Leicester team he put out was his best team that up to now he's managed to wrangle out of all the cards he's been dealt.

Now all that's been done in about 3 months, and i'm happy with how he's gone about it, but i'm not stupid and know this is not yet his finished team that's he's happy with, i'd love to know if the 49er's have used their heads and said to him -

" Go ahead, we'll listen to you, you're the football brain we've put in charge, and once you've finished deciding what you want to keep and throw out, there's money waiting for you to spend, and much more if we get promotion, we'll even throw in £20-30m in January if you really want somebody that's available"........" And we also might have £60m coming in from sales of the likes of Harrison, Gnonto, and hopefully some of the inherited trash"

[Kennyb41]

I wouldn’t mind seeing Bamford go now, he’s so unreliable these days (he always has been, in truth) with injuries, missed penalties and missed chances. Unfortunately, unless he himself is prepared to take a probably large pay cut, it won’t happen because he’s simply not value for his wage.

Like Ken, I think I’ve seen enough of Firpo to be pretty sure he’s not up to the required grade. He may have more chance at Championship level to prove his worth, but I’m not convinced.

To ease my pain with PB i console myself with the great times Bert got out of him and the fact we achieved a wasted promotion.

So we're back to sq1 and he's older and DF is trying to build, i'd be putting him out to graze unless he somehow miraculously starts ripping up trees again, but even so, he's not one if we're looking to the future with progression of the younger guys that'll reach maturity that he's past.

I honest to God hope Firpo proves me wrong, there is a very slight chance of him doing that in the Championship, but forget the Prem if we get there, i've already seen enough of his defensive woes, but i'll still guarantee that any manager worth his salt in the Championship will/should target him if he gets into our team, and i will be proved right, he is absolute fcking garbage at taking up defensive position and actually defending itself, and the timing of his tackles is atrocious, so much so that i would back him to get booked everytime he plays if i can find the odds, he's half decent at getting forward, but eBygum is currently proving better at that.

[mentalcase]

Morning all.
Bamford if he plays ought to be taking his chances not missing sitters and penalties, it really is that simple, he isn't worth the salary, he's past his best, whenever that was, and firpo was never good enough to begin with, the "elland road faithful" didn't think we'd hit the frigging jackpot at all with him, some of us did a due diligence on him, and quickly realised, he was shite, unlike orta who tried to pull the wool over our eyes again.
If we are to be serious again, we really ought to be ridding ourselves of these players, along with a few more, it concerns me that we are shipping out Cresswell, Davis and Drameh (sure, they may not make it) but keeping cooper, bamfraud and firpo !!!
As my Granny used to say " theres a rabbit amiss somewhere"

[geronimo]

Bamford is going nowhere while he is on 70 grand a week and nobody is daft enough to buy him he is milking the club dry like cooper ayling firpo and quite a few more that ain't good enough

Maybe that's why we are been linked to these to these so called superstars from the back of beyond again instead of recognised quality players who can do a job
We are heading down the same path again sell our better players and replace them with dross

[GreennWhite]

Farke will know if Firpo is good enough to play in his team at this level, he is seeing him in training, day in and day out. We have a few players in the team who couldn't quite cut it in the Premiership and are now playing well in this league.

[Ellandback1]

Bamford is going nowhere while he is on 70 grand a week and nobody is daft enough to buy him he is milking the club dry like cooper ayling firpo and quite a few more that ain't good enough

Maybe that's why we are been linked to these to these so called superstars from the back of beyond again instead of recognised quality players who can do a job
We are heading down the same path again sell our better players and replace them with dross

It's quite disconcerting that a Championship striker is earning £300,000 a month.

[Kennyb41]

That's my view too. You can't 'put aside his injuries' as he hasn't had the run of games to get fit. I'd still like to think he's got another decent season or two in him once he gets back into his stride.

The problem has been relying on him as our only striker, which is why folk have got so frustrated with him. I don't think that's his fault, and we don't have to do that now.

His salary is high, but that's not his fault either. He scored 17 goals in the premier league, so that's the level he's capable of, and his salary reflects that.

Players like PB can easily get on my feckin nerves, i've known players throughout my time of playing that think they've broke their leg when they've got a 'knock', i always considered them soft twats. How often do you hear players like Messi that actually love the game is 'injured'? Salah is another, he wants to be playing football no matter what, and you know that when he says he's injured, he's injured, and i don't doubt it at all.

But players like PB ? - Do me a favour.

They are feckin weak Prima Donnas, that weak, that they miss penalties, weak in body, and weak of mind.

[Kennyb41]

It's quite disconcerting that a Championship striker is earning £300,000 a month.

I said it yonks back - PB if he's any sense or a fraud, could cynically use his bonce and think "fck me i'm on £70k a week, and i can feel my legs going, i'm 30, i think i'll drag this out, but i better make myself available every now and then or i'll get sussed"

[Jaydog]

Must be a bit embarrassing to be on that kind of money and contribute so little on the pitch. Maybe he gives some to the younger lads to equal it up. Ere Gnonto have a nifty lad.

[johnstockton]

According to my information Patrick Bamford has 40,000 euros ~ 35,000 pounds per week. That is not to much for a striker like he is.

https://worldfootballrumours.com/leeds- ... s-2022-23/

But if you are right and he is on 75,000 pounds per week, we should sell him.

[White Riot]

Bamfraud, man, I don't see him as being of any value to LUFC.

As I've said before, if we had done things correctly then the Championship guys should have their one season in the sunshine of the EPL, and then immediately flogged for whatever we could get.

Instead we have clung onto The Fraud, Ayling, Cooper and until recently Forshaw, as if they're potential UCL winners.

The Fraud is miles off it, like his mates, and has been for many years. Only a matter of time before Farke ships out our dross.

Firpo, is yet another injury prone Orta acquisition and the evidence so far is that he ain't good enough. If Spence gets fit then Byram starts at left back.

I don't see that we need extra striking resources at the moment. We've got an abundance of talented forward players.

Things are looking very rosy under DF and I think he's a class act that will take the club upward and forwards. It's up the board not to f**k it up a second time.

[Kennyb41]

That's not my impression at all. Have you any reason for thinking he's a malingerer, other than your apparent dislike of his personality? I seem to recall him playing through injuries when he probably shouldn't have.

No, they're just my own thoughts, and probably unfair of me to judge him that way whilst knowing feck all about him or his 'injuries/knocks', my suspicions of him being a twat by cupping his ears to his own fans and thus downing tools to get them back could also be way out of order, like i said, it's just my cynical self at work.