Leeds Utd v Sheffield Wednesday Match Thread

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Leeds United v Sheffield Wednesday
Leeds United
Leeds United
3–0
Championship
19/01/2025
Elland Road
Sheffield Wednesday
Sheffield Wednesday
All-time record vs Sheffield Wednesday
104
Played
42
Won
28
Drawn
34
Lost
+9
GD
40%
Win %
Home record at Elland Road
52
Played
25
Won
16
Drawn
11
Lost
+31
GD
48%
Win %
DateGroundScoreCompetition
23/08/2024 Hillsborough 0–2 W Championship
08/03/2024 Hillsborough 0–2 W Championship
02/09/2023 Elland Road 0–0 D Championship
11/01/2020 Elland Road 0–2 L Championship
26/10/2019 Hillsborough 0–0 D Championship
All-time top scorers vs Sheffield Wednesday
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1 Rod Wallace 7
2 Charlie Keetley 7
3 John Charles 7
4 Lee Chapman 4
5 Harry Duggan 4
Starting XI
Substitutes
Unused Substitutes
26 Darlow
3 Firpo
33 Schmidt
39 Wober
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John in Louisiana wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2025 1:52 pm Kudos to Meslier today.

He looked shaky on the first couple of corners but has done quite well since.

Nice bounce back for him.
We were as nervous as hell just behind him in the kop.

It only needs one of those moments to screw us up, as has been the case in at least five of our matches this season. It will happen again!

Apart from the Millwall FA Cup game (maybe one more), Darlow's Leeds career is finished.
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John in Louisiana wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2025 3:40 pm Still don't understand the obsession with having our striker score more goals. Scoring goals is not our problem. We have scored seven more goals than any other team in the league and our GD is a full ten goals better than anyone else's. Only two teams have conceded fewer.
Not too worried about Piroe’s goals but Joseph is our only fit back up so if something happens to Joel we’ll struggle. Surely you’d want to see more from Joseph than a lot of running around and no goals against tired defences ?
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CUSSIE01 wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2025 5:18 pm Not too worried about Piroe’s goals but Joseph is our only fit back up so if something happens to Joel we’ll struggle. Surely you’d want to see more from Joseph than a lot of running around and no goals against tired defences ?
Going along with the Cjay/Bamford running around trope, now that Bamford is not playing we need to pin that tired observation on somebody else, but it needs to be someone that is underperforming, and not living up to expectations... yes Joseph will do nicely, we couldn't pin it on Piroe, cos Lord forbid that he would ever run around, yet he is extolled for his positional sense.

It is a stick to beat our players with... run to much and you are a headless chicken.. don't run enough and you have the turning circle of a tanker.

Seems we find things to praise in our favourite players... and things to condemn in those we don't rate. Fans who should listen to them... certainly not the manager
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1964white wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2025 5:06 pm I enjoy your celebrations. :supbo: :scar1
I seem to remember posters questioning Ramazani as his form dipped a little so was good to see that clever jinking run & finish.
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CUSSIE01 wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2025 3:27 pm Def not arguing with you Trigger, Piroe was poor today but if there was a half chance in the box I know who I’d want on the end of it. DF’s subs came up Trumps today and Joseph gave their back line something different to think about but first and foremost I want our strikers to score, maybe he needs a goal or two to get him started but we can’t rely on him to get the goals to get us promoted.
Perhaps my wording is wrong, i'm by no means looking for an argument.
It's a genuine poser and my post was made prior to Joseph being introduced to the game, my thoughts are we look a totally different attacking unit altogether with either Joseph or Piroe starting, my question is, why?
Like some comments have suggested, goals are coming from everywhere, I think Bogle had more touches in the box today than either striker, but there is a difference in our play when either of Joseph or Piroe are on the pitch, what is it?
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ElKapitan wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2025 2:03 pm Scoreline doesn't tell the story and I hope doesn't impact the urgency for signings. Massively happy for Tanaka and Ramazani what an impact he made (think he won the game for us in all honesty).

Aaronsson went off injured by the look of it, need a 10 as think Solomon is excellent on the wing and Gnonto doesn't look good centrally.

Meslier good clean sheet but again weak on corners and distribution.... Two decent saves in the game and not massively tested. Defence looked shaky/last ditch throughout (props to Ampadu for that brilliant tackle).

No control during the game again... Could feel it from the fans in the ground who were fairly quiet.
There is no doubt we deserved to win, but we don't half make things difficult for ourselves.

3-0 flattered us, the crowd was tense for long periods of the game, until Ramazani's cracker with two minutes to go.

Ampadu's magnificent tackle saved us from a 1-1 scoreline, as we gave them oceans of space for the Owls to strut their stuff.

The good thing I witnessed today is Sheff Wed could give our rivals a fright when they encounter the Owls.
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Orange Box wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2025 3:07 pm I started with ITV then switched at half time, reason being itv didn’t show replays of any of the contentious issues (THAT handball, for instance) whereas Sky do.
A pitter-patter moment that the imbecile in green waved away. :shock:
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Trigger wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2025 3:12 pm I mean in general, not having a bash at Piroe, who we know can finish, but our play overall looks totally different, just a general observation i was trying to put my finger on, Piroes movement seems like an oil tanker, a lack of speed out of the blocks?
Another one of those stroll around the pitch from Piroe, today.

At least, Joseph worked his socks off when he came on!
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1964white wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2025 5:53 pm There is no doubt we deserved to win, but we don't half make things difficult for ourselves.

3-0 flattered us, the crowd was tense for long periods of the game, until Ramazani's cracker with two minutes to go.

Ampadu's magnificent tackle saved us from a 1-1 scoreline, as we gave them oceans of space for the Owls to strut their stuff.

The good thing I witnessed today is Sheff Wed could give our rivals a fright when they encounter the Owls.
I'm sure they'd love to get one over the blunts and Wilder.
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Orange Box wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2025 5:08 pm I think that happens when there’s a decent game being played, people want to watch rather than comment. I know I do. My ingame posts tend to come when I get bored. Today I never got bored.
Indeed, it was a very good open game, as opposed to the boring low block stuff we have often endured this season.
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Watched ITVX back and firstly Sam Matterface is dreadful and secondly he called Ramazani Radrizanni when he scored :lol:
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1964white wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2025 6:07 pm Another one of those stroll around the pitch from Piroe, today.

At least, Joseph worked his socks off when he came on!
I'm sorry but that is simply not true.

Piroe worked hard and forced quite a few poor passes and mistakes.

Perception of a player definitely alters opinions on here.

(In general not a dig at you).

Joseph ran around a bit against a team pushing forward and leaving space, if that's Piroe it's "well definitely shows he needs to come off the bench".

Joseph though "didn't he do well, let's start him".

Blah :evil:
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1964white wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2025 6:15 pm Indeed, it was a very good open game, as opposed to the boring low block stuff we have often endured this season.
But teams will just point to the scoreline as a reason why to park the bus :(
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We seem to have to be in one camp or the other regarding Piroe/Joseph... I rate them both, think we'd be fine if Piroe gets injured and Joseph gets a run and vice versa.

Joseph has started 1 league game since October so impossible to evaluate, but there's a lot of talent there. Personally I prefer joseph starting as his movement (not running) creates space for others. Like JiL I don't care who scores as long as we do and in timely fashion. But Joseph will start scoring if he gets a run starting.
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Good game, game good. 😂

Cashed out at 1-0 as I couldn't see a third goal. 3-0 @ 9 and the bookie offered 58% of my stake back with 20 mins to go.

😤 Should have kept the faith. 😤
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Jaydog wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2025 5:38 pm I seem to remember posters questioning Ramazani as his form dipped a little so was good to see that clever jinking run & finish.
Ramazani formed dipped after suffering a bad injury, and required time to get his fitness back.
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The Subhuman wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2025 6:22 pm We seem to have to be in one camp or the other regarding Piroe/Joseph... I rate them both, think we'd be fine if Piroe gets injured and Joseph gets a run and vice versa.

Joseph has started 1 league game since October so impossible to evaluate, but there's a lot of talent there. Personally I prefer joseph starting as his movement (not running) creates space for others. Like JiL I don't care who scores as long as we do and in timely fashion. But Joseph will start scoring if he gets a run starting.
I'm in neither camp myself, and care not who scores the goals as long as we are winning. I'm more interesting in the stark difference in our attacking game when one or the other starts., we are very different.
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1964white wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2025 6:28 pm Ramazani formed dipped after suffering a bad injury, and required time to get his fitness back.
Exactly. But he was being written off on here fairly quickly which seemed odd
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1964white wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2025 6:15 pm Indeed, it was a very good open game, as opposed to the boring low block stuff we have often endured this season.
Only because of our early goal. If we hadn't scored that early then I doubt Sheff Wed would have been anywhere near as adventurous. As it was at 1-0 down they may as well have a go especially as we (both players and fans) would have been a bit jittery after the last 2 league matches.

I do think that it almost benefits us to be so poor at creating decent chances as it means in most of our matches they settle into an 'attack v defence' scenario where we dictate play. As such the pattern of play has usually been pretty much set by the time we finally get our opening goal and it is then harder for the opposition to change the way they have been playing. When we score early it changes the usual pattern of our games and makes them far more open - whereby it can suit us as we usually look more like scoring albeit more like conceding too.
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Jaydog wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2025 6:51 pm Exactly. But he was being written off on here fairly quickly which seemed odd
It would have seemed odd if he hadn't been written off fairly quickly on here. :lol:
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