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Leeds United v Burnley
Leeds United
Leeds United
1–0
Premier League
27/12/2020
Elland Road
Burnley
Burnley
All-time record vs Burnley
68
Played
34
Won
14
Drawn
20
Lost
+28
GD
50%
Win %
Home record at Elland Road
34
Played
21
Won
6
Drawn
7
Lost
+31
GD
62%
Win %
DateGroundScoreCompetition
19/09/2017 Turf Moor 2–2 D Carabao Cup 3rd Round
09/04/2016 Turf Moor 1–0 L Championship
08/08/2015 Elland Road 1–1 D Championship
15/03/2014 Turf Moor 2–1 L Championship
21/09/2013 Elland Road 1–2 L Championship
All-time top scorers vs Burnley
#PlayerGoals
1 Peter Lorimer 8
2 Allan Clarke 7
3 Tom Jennings 5
4 Mick Jones 4
5 Eddie Gray 4
Starting XI
Goa Meslier
Def Struijk
Mid Phillips
Def Ayling ©
Def Dallas
Def Alioski
Mid Klich
For Moreno
Mid Harrison
For Bamford
Substitutes
Unused Substitutes
-- Roberts
-- Casilla
-- Costa
-- Davis
-- Jenkins
-- Casey
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Re: Leeds Utd v Burnley Match Thread - Pascal Struijk replaces the injured Liam Cooper

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Mick Jones shoulder wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:37 pm Short memories on here re Wood, especially the Monk season. Was always a lump an effective one i recall.
Thought he looked a better player for Leeds than he did today Mj, big credit to our CB's though
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Anonymous wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:08 pm Regarding Harrison at LB, he is probably the best we have at taking down and controlling long balls. So many chances have been created from the quick transition that gives us.

What makes people think he would be good enough in defence to sacrifice his forward wide play?
Thought his crossing was decent when he got a Taylor chance today Swift as well.
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faaip wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:20 pm Thought his crossing was decent when he got a Taylor chance today Swift as well.
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Mick Jones shoulder wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:37 pm Short memories on here re Wood, especially the Monk season. Was always a lump an effective one i recall.
Think you'll find I called him a slow moving lump with a turning circle of an oil tanker when he played for us..My memory is fine. Happy to see him leave...
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Velotrax wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:22 pm :clape: :clape:
In joke for Sara ..trying a bit of subliminal advertising
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faaip wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:23 pm In joke for Sara ..trying a bit of subliminal advertising
LOL, I spent 5 mins looking for a taylor swift on Burnleys team sheet
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Re: Leeds Utd v Burnley Match Thread - Pascal Struijk replaces the injured Liam Cooper

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Ron Swanson wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:53 pm He looks more ponderous, lacking in confidence etc than he did before.

Being run so ragged that he needed to be hooked after 20 minutes can't have done him any good.
Pascal won a lot of headers today, his distribution on the ground is not as good as Ben White.

Struijk is a CB not a DM
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Anonymous wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:08 pm Regarding Harrison at LB, he is probably the best we have at taking down and controlling long balls. So many chances have been created from the quick transition that gives us.

What makes people think he would be good enough in defence to sacrifice his forward wide play?
Imo he reminds me of Dallas, when we first got Dallas everyone admired his energy and defensive contributions but just wished he had a better end product.

We have been saying the same about JH for 3 years. Occasionally he does brilliant things but its rare and in a less attacking side he would struggle even more (say we buy him and Bielsa leaves and we get a less attacking coach for example).

He may improve of course but i think he would suit a modern day left back?

It worked for Dallas.

May even take the pressure of him, Dallas seems to shoot better now than he did as a winger, the pressure to score goals and create being taken off may help JH?

His defending is ok anyway, with some coaching he could improve that and his energy and work rate suits a modern day fb and he would have more time to measure crosses to players infront of him rather than byline crosses like he struggles with.

Would still be able to be involved in transitions and such but he wouldn't be under so much pressure to create and score at fb, it isnt like he is brilliant offensively and we couldn't improve on him now we are in the Prem.
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YorkshireSquare wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 1:54 pm Thank god for that!

Don't like pragmatism, can we go back to 4-3 and 5-2 every week?
....and 2-6 and 1-4
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1964white wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:26 pm Pascal won a lot of headers today, his distribution on the ground is not as good as Ben White.

Struijk is a CB not a DM
Pascal did well, he did the simple things, not much more I can add
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Cjay wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:31 pm Imo he reminds me of Dallas, when we first got Dallas everyone admired his energy and defensive contributions but just wished he had a better end product.

We have been saying the same about JH for 3 years. Occasionally he does brilliant things but its rare and in a less attacking side he would struggle even more (say we buy him and Bielsa leaves and we get a less attacking coach for example).

He may improve of course but i think he would suit a modern day left back?

It worked for Dallas.

May even take the pressure of him, Dallas seems to shoot better now than he did as a winger, the pressure to score goals and create being taken off may help JH?

His defending is ok anyway, with some coaching he could improve that and his energy and work rate suits a modern day fb and he would have more time to measure crosses to players infront of him rather than byline crosses like he struggles with.

Would still be able to be involved in transitions and such but he wouldn't be under so much pressure to create and score at fb, it isnt like he is brilliant offensively and we couldn't improve on him now we are in the Prem.
I agree that Harrison would probably make a decent left back. I saw him play there in his one U23 game this year which makes it clear that Bielsa sees him as an option. But I think for now, it's only as an emergency back up. What makes everyone think he shouldn't be on the wing? His dribbling and ball control are top class. And while his end product gets knocked a lot, he's created more chances for us than anyone else.
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Peter in Blackpool wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:32 pm ....and 2-6 and 1-4

Exactly, I’d much prefer that!
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Velotrax wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:33 pm Pascal did well, he did the simple things, not much more I can add
I was reading through those Strujik is slow posts. His defensive work was excellent today and when he's played in midfield he does have some really good passes in him. I see what people are saying about his deliberation on the ball. But I think that's just down to confidence and experience. I think he's fine.
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Should have been 3-0 up at HT, our profligacy gave Burnley hope they were still in the game. They huffed and puffed second half, but was Meslier really tested? Ugly win, but I'll take that all day long given the makeshift defence (again). Wasn't pretty, lacked fluidity but it's another 3 points against a team in our peer group. Half way to safety in 15 games, there aren't many of us who wouldn't have taken that when the season started.

Thought Kalvin was excellent, Ayling and Struijk both solid today (not sure why the young lad is taking grief when he has been thrown in again with little game time) and Meslier wasn't always totally convincing but dealt with everything that came his way. Klich needs a rest, don't think there's anything left in the tank. We still have a propensity to give away needless free-kicks in dangerous positions, which is just plain stupid given how ropey we are at defending them. Hopefully the clean sheet will give the team a boost after taking so much flak for the scum result. ALAW
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Pascal did what he's supposed to, win headers and bring some height up against their giants. He will improve with more game time. He's still only 21 and not had much first team football.
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Nice that Bielsa had the luxury of resting 3 of our best attacking players today - Raphinha, Rodrigo, and Klich

Kind of like in the ManU game when he subbed Klich and Phillips at half time to stop them getting a 5th yellow card

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andrewjohnsmith wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:38 pm I was reading through those Strujik is slow posts.. I think he's fine.
Slow and steady is far better than rash and ruthless when defending
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Velotrax wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:46 pm Slow and steady is far better than rash and ruthless when defending
Struijk was solid today. He didn't contribute much (barely had any touches), but he didn't make any mistakes, either and was solid along the back. Just what we needed from him.
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John in Louisiana wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:49 pm Struijk was solid today. He didn't contribute much, but he didn't make any mistakes, either. Just what we needed from him.
Absolutely :tup:
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If he gets a run of games with one partner he'll come to understand what's needed to play the Bielsa system...He is a good passer of the ball and once he becomes familiar with the pass and move we play he'll be good. Very high ceiling for me...Quick enough.
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