Leeds Utd v Manchester Utd Match Thread - No Raphinha for Leeds

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Leeds United v Manchester United
Leeds United
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2–4
Premier League
20/02/2022
Elland Road
Manchester United
Manchester United
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115
Played
27
Won
38
Drawn
50
Lost
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GD
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Win %
Home record at Elland Road
55
Played
15
Won
17
Drawn
23
Lost
-8
GD
27%
Win %
DateGroundScoreCompetition
14/08/2021 Old Trafford 5–1 L Premier League ↗
25/04/2021 Elland Road 0–0 D Premier League ↗
20/12/2020 Old Trafford 6–2 L Premier League ↗
20/09/2011 Elland Road 0–3 L Carling Cup 3rd Round ↗
03/01/2010 Old Trafford 0–1 W FA Cup 3rd Round ↗
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1 Mick Jones 7
2 Charlie Keetley 5
3 Allan Clarke 5
4 Tom Jennings 5
5 Billy Bremner 5
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Def Ayling ©
Def Llorente
Def Struijk
Def Dallas
Mid Forshaw
Def Koch
Mid James
Mid Klich
Mid Harrison
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Re: Leeds Utd v Manchester Utd Match Thread - No Raphinha for Leeds

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I thought we played well today, but the defence is a shambles and has been imo since MB took over, we just scored more than the opposition but obviously it isn't happening now.
You can't fault the players commitment they run their bollocks off but the truth of the matter is some of them just aren't good enough!
Was Gelhardt the star some think he is ? I'm not so sure yet .
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SG90 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 4:27 pm Just goes to show you only get dropped if you fall out, not due to poor form.
Raph was dreadful against Villa and Everton, so much so rodrigo lost it when he didn't release the ball resulting in him giving away a stupid foul, with rodrigo booting the ball away in frustration, with rodrigo being booked!.
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I'd rather park the bus and scrape a few 1-0s and stay up than continue this man to man lunacy and lose our PL status!/
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SG90 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 4:31 pm No but we'd have got a couple of loans in.
Not MB's way, As much as I love what he has achieved with the players, I'm as much frustrated by his constant playing them despite them not being fit for purpose, we need 4 or 5 players in now !
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Bongo1874 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 4:33 pm Raph was dreadful against Villa and Everton, so much so rodrigo lost it when he didn't release the ball resulting in him giving away a stupid foul, with rodrigo booting the ball away in frustration, with rodrigo being booked!.
Ayling, Klich, Dallas, Roberts, Rodrigo, Llorente, Harrison have been dreadful all season, yet they've never been dropped.
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velo wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 4:34 pm Not MB's way, As much as I love what he has achieved with the players, I'm as much frustrated by his constant playing them despite them not being fit for purpose, we need 4 or 5 players in now !
That's why I'd have made the change.
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Scoobychief wrote: Gee big white I get your frustration but I'm going 7-0
That's my half time prediction !

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SG90 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 4:34 pm I'd rather park the bus and scrape a few 1-0s and stay up than continue this man to man lunacy and lose our PL status!/

But you will stay up playing the style you are playing 😂😂 we played Park the bus under Bruce and look where it had us?

Howe now has us pressing and attacking.

You're missing two key player's Kalvin and Patrick.

You won against West ham without those player's, we didn't have Saint max and ended up drawing.

Keep the head up 👍.
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SG90 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 4:35 pm Ayling, Klich, Dallas, Roberts, Rodrigo, Llorente, Harrison have been dreadful all season, yet they've never been dropped.
Because you don't have the squad to replace them all, you're missing you're captain down too injury, midfield Kalvin, striker Patrick.
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My team for Liverpool: Meslier Shackleton Cresswell Struijk Dallas Forshaw Bate Summerville Raphinha James Gelhardt

Bielsa's team: Meslier Ayling Llorente Struijk Firpo Forshaw Dallas Klich Harrison James Rodrigo
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Bongo1874 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 4:38 pm But you will stay up playing the style you are playing 😂😂 we played Park the bus under Bruce and look where it had us?

Howe now has us pressing and attacking.

You're missing two key player's Kalvin and Patrick.

You won against West ham without those player's, we didn't have Saint max and ended up drawing.

Keep the head up 👍.
No we wont. We're leaking goals and not scoring enough to get results.
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SG90 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 4:35 pm Ayling, Klich, Dallas, Roberts, Rodrigo, Llorente, Harrison have been dreadful all season, yet they've never been dropped.
He hasn’t really had the luxury of dropping anyone because more often than not we have struggled to put together a team. People have a pop at Cooper on a regular basis, but I can assure you his absence is a massive loss in terms of leadership on the pitch, particularly in the absence of KP stabilising the defence.
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SG90 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 4:40 pm No we wont. We're leaking goals and not scoring enough to get results.
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Re: Leeds Utd v Manchester Utd Match Thread - No Raphinha for Leeds

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We remind me of thay Blackpool side managed by Ian Holloway.

They played some great football at times, some lovely attacking stuff.

They had a great camaraderie and a lovely bunch of lads the majority of whom had spent most of there career in the lower leagues.

Everyone always said "oh I love watching Blackpool".

Problem was they conceded 78 goals and were easy to score against, they were relegated.

We are very similar in many ways but actually worse in 2 crucial ones.

We concede at a very slightly worse rate and score at a far less frequent rate (1.20 goals per game to Blackpools 1.44)
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SG90 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 4:39 pm My team for Liverpool: Meslier Shackleton Cresswell Struijk Dallas Forshaw Bate Summerville Raphinha James Gelhardt

Bielsa's team: Meslier Ayling Llorente Struijk Firpo Forshaw Dallas Klich Harrison James Rodrigo
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DDB220 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 4:42 pm He hasn’t really had the luxury of dropping anyone because more often than not we have struggled to put together a team. People have a pop at Cooper on a regular basis, but I can assure you his absence is a massive loss in terms of leadership on the pitch, particularly in the absence of KP stabilising the defence.
Spot on.

Squad depth is a real problem.

A player that could replace Kalvin when out injured, and add more to you're team is the lad that played for ajax, in pre season against you and scored.


Ryan Gravenberch.


His team mate Edson Álvarez would be an upgrade on Cooper, can play at centre back and defensive midfield.

Allowing Ryan Gravenberch.to get further forward.

Cooper is a good squad player to have competition is healthy 👍.
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DDB220 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 4:42 pm He hasn’t really had the luxury of dropping anyone because more often than not we have struggled to put together a team. People have a pop at Cooper on a regular basis, but I can assure you his absence is a massive loss in terms of leadership on the pitch, particularly in the absence of KP stabilising the defence.
You keep using injuries as an excuse, but we made no signings in January, as apparently there were no better players in the world.
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Bongo1874 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 4:49 pm Spot on.

Squad depth is a real problem.

A player that could replace Kalvin when out injured, and add more to you're team is the lad that played for ajax, in pre season against you and scored.


Ryan Gravenberch.


His team mate Edson Álvarez would be an upgrade on Cooper, can play at centre back and defensive midfield.

Allowing Ryan Gravenberch.to get further forward.

Cooper is a good squad player to have competition is healthy 👍.
Dream on, Gravenberch is never coming here.
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The Blackpool comparison is quite scary 😨
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Re: Leeds Utd v Manchester Utd Match Thread - No Raphinha for Leeds

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SG90 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 4:50 pm Dream on, Gravenberch is never coming here.

Premier league 👍 top earner i reckon you could get him, he's quality, keeping player's like Raph and Phillip's key to him joining, Bielsa and board will have to bite bullet over small squad and bring in at least 3 quality player's without losing Raph or Phillip's to get you up challenging for Europa league, you deserve it as a fanbase and you can do it 👍.

I never thought we would ever get rid of Ashley but we did 👍.
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